[Rhodes22-list] Jesusland.

[brad haslett]

Stan,

Congratulations.  That is rare these days.  My parents
have been married 59 years and if they were ever
unhappy with each other they didn’t let me know about
it.  One of the kindest things my father ever said to
me was after I had suffered a major financial setback
and downgraded substantialy in housing, “Son, when
your Mother and I married we didn’t have a pot to phis
in or a window to throw it out of, you’ll survive
this”.

Both parties face the dilemma of being taken as a
whole by the identity of their fractions.  Bible
belters are but a part of the Republicans as “bleeding
heart liberals” are but a part of the Democrats.  If
either party lets one group get too tight a grip on
the “big picture” they will suffer for it.

Right now we have a one party government.  I think
that offers some unique opportunities in the short run
but is not healthy for the Republic in the long run. 
The Dems just suffered from “the wrong candidate, at
the wrong place, at the wrong time”.  Think Evan Byah.

BTW, I've done my part to run up the marraige numbers
on the conservative side of the isle, do I get a free
Rhodes?

Brad

--- stan <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:

> give that man a free Rhodes
> 
> Actually the records show that the bleeding heart
> liberals have a marriage 
> record far superior to the conservative bible belt
> crowd.   We have been 
> married well over 50 years - she to two men and me
> to three ladies.  Just 
> kidding, only to each other - something I have found
> extremely rare in the 
> religious right part of the country where the rule
> for that family value is 
> more like musical chairs.
> 
> stan/EC
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Stephen Staum" <staum at earthlink.net>
> To: "Hank" <hnw555 at gmail.com>; "The Rhodes 22 mail
> list" 
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 6:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Jesusland.
> 
> 
> >I have to weigh in with Robert on this one.  I
> cannot stand all the "family
> > values" crap dispursed by the Republicans.  It is
> as if Democrats,
> > Independants and (God forbid we mention) Liberals
> did not care about their
> > families.
> >
> > Religion (including prayer in school) has no place
> in government.  SS
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Hank" <hnw555 at gmail.com>
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 5:53 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Jesusland.
> >
> >
> >> I have to disagree on your definition of morals
> and ethics.  In most,
> >> if not all, dictionaries, morals and ethics are
> synonymous terms and
> >> are often used to define one another.  Nether one
> implies a Deity.
> >> They both are based upon acting out of a sense of
> right or wrong, good
> >> or evil.
> >>
> >> Hank
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 18:13:36 -0500, Robert
> Skinner
> >> <robert at squirrelhaven.com> wrote:
> >> > Rummy -
> >> >
> >> > Couldn't agree more about the problems that
> come
> >> > up when we combine religion with politics.
> >> >
> >> > Part of the background of our current "family
> values"
> >> > vs. secular considerations may come from our
> failure
> >> > to distinguish between moral issues and ethical
> ones.
> >> >
> >> > Morals are a product of a person's dialogue
> with his
> >> > deity of choice - and there is more than one
> such
> >> > acknowledged in this country.
> >> >
> >> > Ethics are shared in a society without regard
> to
> >> > religion - or the society falls apart.  When
> the
> >> > society decides to enforce morals, it becomes a
> >> > theocracy, and people's rights are submerged in
> the
> >> > regulations laid down by the priest class,
> specially
> >> > when it is indistinguishable from the ruling
> class.
> >> >
> >> > I believe that the "family values" issues
> raised in
> >> > the last election are totally irrelevant to our
> >> > government, and were used in the most
> unscrupulous
> >> > way to obscure the real issues confronting our
> >> > government.
> >> >
> >> > /Robert Skinner
> >> > -----------------------------------------------
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > In a message dated 11/21/2004 2:06:47 PM
> Eastern Standard Time,
> >> > > flybrad at yahoo.com writes:
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >
>
http://realclearpolitics.com/Presidential_04/2004_County_Results_Final.html
> >> > > I get it now, those people that didn't vote
> for Bush, according to 
> >> > > the
> > red
> >> > > and blue map, are less religious than those
> that did.
> >> > > This country is in a sad state of affairs.
> What happens to the people
> > that
> >> > > are either in the red or blue, voted for
> their candidate, but aren't
> > religious?
> >> > >  Where do we fit in? Personally, I don't
> think religion has any place
> > in
> >> > > politics. Something about the separation of
> church and state. Our
> > founding
> >> > > father's were very smart in writing this into
> our constitution.
> > Putting the two
> >> > > together only muddies the waters even more
> than they already are.
> > Religion or
> >> > > actions taken in the name of religion have
> done more harm to the
> > planet than
> >> > > any  other "just" cause. Let the priests,
> rabbi's, mullah's(sp) and
> > ministers
> >> > > tend their flocks, but leave the rest of us
> alone.
> >> > >
> >> > > Rummy
> >> >
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