[Rhodes22-list] Mohammed, Prophet of Doom

Thu Oct 14 22:10:13 EDT 2004

Stan, 

Actually, I'm officially agnostic but my father is a
devout Christian and that is the faith I'm most
familiar with.  The Jewish, Christian, and Islamic
faiths all share a common early ancestry.  I don't
care what anyone believes as long as they don't leave
pamplets at my front door.

I studied Zen Buddhism for a few years and still enjoy
reading Buddhist writings from time to time.  The only
problem with being a more fervent Buddhist is that I
wouldn't care about any of this, would I?

Sometimes I miss being religious Stan, then I could
pray for you.

Brad 
--- stan <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:

> All right Mr. Christian and Mr. Arab.  As a jew I
> agree with your reasoning. 
> We part ways with conclusions.
> 
> We agree the Saudis are the villains and we agree
> all mankind yearns for 
> freedom.  So why should we be voting for Bush?  The
> Bushes have been so 
> close to the Saudis (remember, the villains) it is
> nauseating.  And the 
> Saudis rule of law does not seem to put them in lock
> step with Bushes 
> wanting us all to be free.  So why are we supposed
> to then work so hard to 
> get Bush back in?  I know you will come up with some
> convoluted 
> justification why this obverse reasoning makes sense
> to you two.
> 
> So let me make one other point.  Our myopic
> leadership has all eyes on the 
> enemy in front of them and no understanding of the
> enemy in back of them - 
> their  same reasoning that we would be welcomed with
> open arms and oil would 
> pay the cost - is working to keep them from seeing
> that their bleeding of 
> our wealth and youth could unleash a greater damage
> from the rear.   When a 
> few end up with all the marbles and the majority
> have none,  the game is 
> over - and the fun really begins.  History anyone?
> 
> Cheering on a faith based electorate with its single
> issue litmus test is so 
> frightening that I am tempted to leave Brad"s and my
> mutual religious 
> conviction and pray to god that Bush again loses the
> majority and this time 
> also the college system.
> 
> stan/gbi
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "brad haslett" <flybrad at yahoo.com>
> To: <sifood at austin.rr.com>; "The Rhodes 22 mail
> list" 
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 10:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Mohammed, Prophet of
> Doom
> 
> 
> > Mike,
> >
> > Thanks for the eloquently stated insight.  My
> personel
> > belief is that the House of Saud is the biggest
> > culprit in this mess.  They have encouraged the
> masses
> > to pursue extremism to avoid implicating their
> leaders
> > for the substandard living conditions that most
> endure
> > despite the country's wealth.
> >
> > This may sound like corny and simplistic thinking
> to
> > the intellectuals on the list, but I firmly
> believe in
> > Ronald Reagan's and W's philosophy that all
> mankind
> > yearns to be free.  The Iraqi's are no exception.
> > Hopefully Iraq will be the beginning of new
> chapter in
> > history for the entire Middle East.
> >
> > What are the other options?
> >
> > Brad Haslett
> > "CoraShen"
> > --- Mike Abdullah <sifood at austin.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Folks,
> >>
> >> Your friendly Texas arab, sailor, Islamic expert
> >> here. Yep, there are a
> >> lot of Islamic nuts but most of us muslims are
> just
> >> as sane as
> >> Christians (hmmmm? ;-)).
> >>
> >> Problem is, Islamic world is about 400 years
> behind
> >> the West when it
> >> comes to rational (secular) thinking. What these
> >> terroist nuts are
> >> saying/doing is NOT true Islam. The problems
> today
> >> are caused not by
> >> true Islam but by the wacko Saudi Wahabi
> sect/cult
> >> of death. They have
> >> been influencing the rest of the muslim world
> with
> >> their petro dollars
> >> and wacked out arab-centric pesudo-religion for
> the
> >> past 50 years or so.
> >> Just think if the KKK (as Christians) got whole
> of
> >> billions of dollars
> >> and started influencing normal Christians.
> Similar
> >> crap has been going
> >> on in the Islamic world.
> >>
> >> I hope and pray that eventualy good comes out of
> >> this maddness (i.e.,
> >> the Islamic world reforms). But, alas ain't gonna
> >> happen over night but
> >> it will happen and the world will be a better
> place.
> >>
> >> We (true muslims) are on the way to taking back
> our
> >> religion (e.g.,
> >> http://www.free-minds.org/Arab_Conspiracy.html)
> from
> >> these radicial
> >> nuts. In fact, historically, Islam was started
> out
> >> very secular. That is
> >> when we made progress and lead the world in
> science
> >> and technology. Some
> >> how priest (mullahs, imams) and the like started
> >> making up/writing
> >> history and foklore about 250 years after
> Muhammads
> >> death to control the
> >> masses. All these made up stories are pure crap!
> But
> >> are now accepted by
> >> a large number of so-called muslims. Even most
> >> english translations of
> >> the Koran (muslim holy book) SUCK and are full of
> >> illogicial and twisted
> >> statements.
> >>
> >> Just my $0.50 cents. Also, I'm voting for Bush
> just
> >> because I think
> >> he'll step up the fight against terrorist if he's
> >> re-elected. You can
> >> not negociate or bargin with terroist - they must
> be
> >> killed or jailed.
> >> They are nothing but common criminals that are
> >> perverting religion to
> >> get their rocks off by spilling blood. They are
> >> enimies of God and humanity!
> >>
> >> Happy Sailing Y'all
> >> Mike Abdullah
> >>
> >>
> >>
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