[Rhodes22-list] New Member Introduction

[Slim]

What ever happened to the list's charter and shouldn't it be included in an
intro package?  I'm sure I saved it somewhere on my computer at home but I'm
on the road now and I don't remember where to access it.

As for assigning duties, I'd be happy to assist anyone who doesn't know how
to get off the list.   8-)

Slim

On 12/6/05 11:13 AM, "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com> wrote:

> Bud,
> 
> I'm open to anything except passing on new duties to people who already
> do more than most--like Ed and Michael.
> 
> People are so anxious to skip over what Michael sends that they entirely
> miss the fundamentals--witness "Get me off this list!"
> 
> My new member thought was that while new people may not know anything
> about sailing or Rhodes 22s, they do know how they got here, and they
> know that people helped them learn our version of proper etiquette (Ed,
> pardon my French).  They can join in by helping those even newer than
> themselves.
> 
> Starting with Ed's message, I thought new people could either just pass
> it along, or modify it, or learn how to link archival answers, or learn
> how to search archives, or...
> 
> I know that others will naturally jump in, but I've noticed that some
> people are warmly welcomed, while others can be completely
> unacknowledged due solely to circumstances beyond everyone's control.  I
> thought that by giving new members responsibilities that they knew they
> could perform, or could learn from the list if they don't know how to do
> these things, and could pass on to even newer members...
> 
> I know you get the idea.  Will you volunteer as new member "mentor" for
> a set period of time with the responsibility to pass off that
> responsibility?  It has been my experience that every time we try to get
> the general list to assume responsibilities, it always devolves down to
> "Let's let Ed and Michael do it."
> 
> I've been on the list for 7 or 8 years now, and every time we try to
> share the responsibilities it always winds up that either one individual
> takes the bull by the horns and does all the work (Tom Evans -- FAQ) or
> we talk it to death with everyone suggesting that somebody else should
> do the work.
> 
> Chance are that it will happen again, but I keep trying...
> 
> Bill Effros
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Bud Connor wrote:
> 
>> Bill,
>>  I like most of the suggestions, except for making each new member
>> responsible for showing others
>> where to find things, and how we operate.  I think "most" of that
>> information could be put into the
>> standard message that Michael sends out when someone joins the list.
>> I think we should pass around
>> responsibility for keeping that intro message up to date, like adding
>> the info on the frappr tool.
>> Also, I think we should have one designated "mentor" who is
>> responsible for answering the
>> general neophyte questions, this could be a role that we could pass
>> around every six months.
>> Michael could setup the email address:  oracle at rhodes22.org  and have
>> all mail forwarded to
>> someone on the list, such as Ed for the next six months.
>> 
>> -Bud Connor
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Bill Effros wrote:
>> 
>>> Joe,
>>> 
>>> Nice intro. For most people it's a hard thing to do, since you can't
>>> know how the group operates until after you have entered.
>>> 
>>> We are working on a stock reply, since all of the successful groups
>>> are a bit different from what people who have never before been a
>>> member of such a group expect when they enter.
>>> 
>>> Ed, who does a lot of work trying to keep this list orderly, sent you
>>> the link to the basis for a stock reply. At the same time he pushed
>>> you into the archives, and tried to encourage you to explore them
>>> before asking a question that has been asked and answered hundreds of
>>> times before. My favorite is "Why do you love your boat?"
>>> 
>>> Sometimes newer people want to jump in on this question. Sometimes
>>> the person asking the question only gets snide comments. There is no
>>> way to know which way it will fall, and it can really turn off new
>>> people. Understandably.
>>> 
>>> I think each new member should be responsible for welcoming the next
>>> new person, and showing them where to find things, and how we
>>> operate. We ask new members to put their comments above what they are
>>> replying to. We ask everyone to change the subject line to reflect
>>> the actual subject of their email if it changes from the subject of
>>> the original thread. We ask people to look at the archives and the
>>> General Boats information. We explain that few holds are barred on
>>> this list, and that we talk about everything else when we are not
>>> talking about boats.
>>> 
>>> We put a "J-" (no quotation marks) in front of a joke. We put a "P-"
>>> in front of politics--so people won't be offended by stumbling into
>>> something that was much more than they had bargained for when they
>>> joined the list.
>>> 
>>> Would you be willing to accept the responsibility to welcome the next
>>> new member of the list, and to pass off the responsibility to the
>>> next new member?
>>> 
>>> Bill Effros
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Joe Astuccio II wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello Group,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>   My name is Joe and I just moved to Fort Lauderdale,
>>>> Florida.  I have a passion for sailing but I don't
>>>> know how to sail yet LOL.  I have been on a few
>>>> different sailboats and I always enjoy my time on the
>>>> water.  My favorite thing is the moment the engine
>>>> turns off, switching to sails for power, and the
>>>> serenity that seems to come with it.  I came across
>>>> the Rhodes 22 on the internet and it seems like a
>>>> dream that will be within my reach.  lll be lurking
>>>> around here reading posts for awhile til I go through
>>>> the archives and read some stories.  Im sure there is
>>>> alot of useful information there.  Thanks for having
>>>> me in the group.
>>>> 
>>>> Happy Holidays,
>>>> Joe
>>>> 
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