[Rhodes22-list] Generator

Bill Effros bill at effros.com
Thu Mar 31 10:21:56 EST 2005


Sorry, Wally,

Who was the other guy we were lambasting?

Bill Effros

Wally Buck wrote:

> I haven't had the need for a generator so I really didn't comment back 
> then. For my use they are overkill but I could see how they could be 
> handy. What about one of those jump start battery packs? My buddy just 
> restored a boat from the 70s and his motor has a hand crank. I thought 
> that was pretty nice. You need to know how to use crank so you don't 
> get hurt. :-)
>
> Wally
>
>> From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
>> Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Generator
>> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 18:45:00 -0500
>>
>> Sorry about the lambasting.  I think I was on the lambasting side of 
>> the equation, although I think my role would better be characterized 
>> as ridiculing.
>>
>> Then I stumbled across one, and was really surprised about how quiet 
>> it was.
>>
>> Sadly, I had trashed all the email in this thread, thinking it would 
>> never apply to me.
>>
>> Now I'm thinking it might be a really useful thing to carry aboard.  
>> Your situation is just one example.  But it also might be useful as a 
>> hybrid gas/electric propulsion system in a pinch.  We are already 
>> carrying the gas on board, so that's no big thing.  The small 
>> generators run on a thimbleful of gas.  The little Honda runs around 
>> $700.
>>
>> As I remember, you and Wally (?) had some interesting storage and 
>> mounting ideas.
>>
>> Again, sorry about the lambasting.
>>
>> Bill Effros
>>
>>
>>
>> brad haslett wrote:
>>
>>> Bill,
>>>
>>> Yeah, I started that discussion and pretty well got
>>> lambasted for it.  The last issue of Practical Sailor
>>> did a review on small generators and chose the Yamaha
>>> by a slight edge over my Honda.  It was my intent to
>>> take it with me on this trip but was one of a dozen
>>> items left behind.  A small generator on board would
>>> have definitely solved our problem of low batteries. I've thought 
>>> about leaving it on the boat but it saved
>>> our arse at home during hurricane Elvis last year, and
>>> kept us from losing all our food after going without
>>> power for three days.
>>>
>>> Brad
>>> --- Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Brad,
>>>>
>>>> Weren't you part of the small portable generator
>>>> discussion?  The more I've thought about it, (and after hearing how
>>>> quietly they run) the more interested I've become in that idea.
>>>>
>>>> Did you decide against it?  Wouldn't that have
>>>> solved your problem?
>>>>
>>>> Bill Effros
>>>>
>>>> brad haslett wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Anne,
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's not be to harsh on the Bohemians.  I'm
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> beginning
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> to think of myself as a Bohemian sailor.  My oldest
>>>>> boy and his friends survived Spring Break on the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> boat,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> the boat didn't fare as well.  They stayed up all
>>>>> night partying while I slept in the aft cabin.  The
>>>>> second morning we cranked the engine and motored
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> for
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> about 30 minutes until the wind picked up, and then
>>>>> raised the sails and a few toasts.  When the wind
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> died
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> down we stowed canvas and attempted to start the
>>>>> diesel ginny.  Click, Click, Click!  My battery
>>>>> charger quit a couple of months ago (it was a
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> salvage
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> unit off the Mayflower), the replacement is on
>>>>> backorder from Sailnet, and apparently we didn't
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> motor
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> enough to recover from the gazillion hours of
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> stereo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> use.  "Not to worry boys!  Its a sailboat!"  The
>>>>> current was drifting us pretty quickly to a rocky
>>>>> shore so I unstowed the main, manned the helm, and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> had
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Spencer man the halyard winch.  I'm not sure what
>>>>> happened but when the main was fully-up it had
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> about a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> two-foot tear in the top panel.  We sailed back to
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> inlet to my marina with what wind (and sail)we had
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> then flagged down a pontoon boat for a tow.  Not
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> just
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> any pontoon boat, a 350 cubic inch V-8 powered
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> pontoon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> boat (didn't know they made such a thing).  I
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> pulled
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> the main off the boat, threw it in a sailbag for
>>>>> repairs, and pressed on with the week.  I purchased
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> cheap battery charger from Wal-Mart to finish the
>>>>> week's frivolities and sailed on the ginnies, both
>>>>> iron and fabric.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now here's the deal:  my old main was pretty tired
>>>>> anyway.  Last year I debated replacing it but sent
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> it
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> to SailCare instead.  It came back still somewhat
>>>>> dingy and baggy, unlike the sails I sent to them
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> off
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> the Rhodes-22.  You can only do so much with an old
>>>>> sail.  Replacement costs run from $900+ to $2000
>>>>> depending on the vendor and features.  I'm debating
>>>>> going to a Doyle StackPack.  They haven't given me
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> quote yet but I understand its quite expensive.  Do
>>>>> you or anyone on the list have any experience with
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> StackPack or know anyone who does?  If my boat were
>>>>> newer I might consider boom-furling but it doesn't
>>>>> make economic sense now.  Of course, I could just
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> sell
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> the damn thing, get another Rhodes-22, and build a
>>>>> cabin on the lake which is what I wanted to do in
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> first place!
>>>>>
>>>>> Brad Haslett
>>>>> s/v "CoraShen"  (Bohemian registry)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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