[Rhodes22-list] Stan?

Arthur H. Czerwonky czerwonky at earthlink.net
Sat Feb 4 16:26:30 EST 2006


Slim,

I drape the cover cloth over the boom, two poles fore and aft and snap the cross beam in place.  Tie front and back, tie four corners, hang the drapes, and it's pretty much done...

Art

-----Original Message-----
>From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
>Sent: Feb 4, 2006 3:56 PM
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Stan?
>
>Slim,
>
>In concept, not detail, how do you assemble your boom room?
>
>Art,
>
>How do you assemble yours?
>
>I will post, in detail, how I assemble and disassemble my PTE.   I don't 
>use Roger's on-the-ground method since my PTE never leaves the boat.  
>Not today, though.
>
>Bill Effros
>
>Slim wrote:
>> I don't mind setting up my BR but when the girls go out without me they
>> never use it.  Typically, they'll drop anchor and start in with cocktails
>> and prep for dinner.  By the time they finish eating and clean-up, it's
>> dark, they're into their cups and feel like relaxing rather than wrestling
>> with the BR.  They often talk of a new design that would be simpler and
>> easier to set up.  One that could be managed by a couple of drunk chicks in
>> the dark.  8-)  They love the ease of the PTE.  I wouldn't trade in my BR
>> but they would.  
>>
>> If the roof went over the boom, it would require less frame than mine which
>> hangs from below the boom.  The fewer pieces the better.  Optimally I'd like
>> a less complicated frame, roof over boom, not over the side decks, not have
>> to disconnect any shrouds, and integrated with the PTE.  Or if not
>> integrated w/PTE, then it should snap down around the cabin in the same way
>> and have the same features.  My BR makes it quite difficult to get out on
>> the fore deck.  The new design should cover only the cockpit and the cabin
>> with "doors" to go from the cockpit to the side decks outside the shelter
>> thus no more interference with the aft lowers and no more crouching through
>> the "tunnel" to go forward.
>>
>> Slim
>>
>> On 2/4/06 12:42 PM, "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com> wrote:
>>
>>   
>>> Slim,
>>>
>>> I think we're hearing through Dave.  Stan doesn't have time for this.
>>> He has pointed us in the right direction, and he wants to see how it all
>>> sorts out before he contributes a lot more time and effort that could
>>> net him nothing but grief.  It's happened before.  If we can come up
>>> with something that makes sense for Stan, he'll come in and refine what
>>> we come up with.  If not, he'll stick to his knitting.
>>>
>>> I am getting more firm commitments back-channel from people who say they
>>> would actually buy finished product at fair price from Stan.
>>>
>>> If we can underwrite prototypes using lesser materials by selling test
>>> parts to individuals on the list, that would make a better finished
>>> product, while providing the basics to people who otherwise might not be
>>> able to afford them, or to make them.
>>>
>>> What about you?  If you could sell your existing Boom Room, or trade it
>>> in for an improved model, would you do it?  At no cost?  At slight
>>> cost?  At full cost?  What would you like to see improved on your Boom
>>> Room?  That's what we're really talking about.  What could we make that
>>> would fit your boom room?  I assume everyone must affix their own female
>>> snaps to the fabric to match the males on their boats?
>>>
>>> If the frame went above the boom would that mean that the new panels
>>> would not fit on your boat?  Or could you attach the snaps with more
>>> overhang?
>>>
>>> Does your ladder design frame make up with additional frame pieces what
>>> Art's H-Frame design achieves with stronger structural members?  If cost
>>> were no object, which would you rather have?
>>>
>>> Bill Effros
>>>
>>> Slim wrote:
>>>     
>>>> I know Stan's busy but he's been conspicuously silent on this whole boom
>>>> room discussion.  It would be nice to hear from him.
>>>> Slim
>>>>
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