[Rhodes22-list] Batteries

[Saroj Gilbert]

Bill.. thanks for the info... yes, I did miss your link-10 ranting (what's 
link-10?).. unfortunately I'm very busy with my work and don't get to read 
all the list posts...

Thanks,
Saroj

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Batteries


> Saroj,
>
> Sorry, poor editing, no switch, yes solar, yes elec start motor (which 
> means I also have motor recharging bat.).
>
> I use Bat. power summer and winter -- Music playing constantly -- elec 
> start every time I go out -- enough night time sailing -- although I save 
> a lot of energy by constantly having lights out...
>
> Have you missed all my link-10 ranting?  If so, I'll find and repost a 
> typical example.
>
> Bill Effros
>
> Saroj Gilbert wrote:
>
>> Bill... did you mean to say you have NO solar and never use your battery 
>> to start the motor?  Is your motor your only means of charging the 
>> batteries? Do you use battery power much?
>>
>> You do have a Xantrex meter apparently... what does this tell you?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Saroj
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 9:32 PM
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Batteries
>>
>>
>>> Bob,
>>>
>>> How did you manage to do this?  Was one of the batteries damaged?  Did 
>>> you fail to add water to wet cells?  Wet cells?  Gel?  AGM?
>>>
>>> Link 10. -- Now Xantrex e-meter and this will never happen.  No excuse 
>>> for it.
>>>
>>> I have 2 batteries connected, no switch, solar, elec start motor -- I 
>>> have never, ever, needed a shore power charge, my batteries last for 6 
>>> years, I leave them in the boat summer and winter...been down this road 
>>> before.
>>>
>>> KISS with a meter -- the meter tells you of a problem coming 6 months 
>>> before it happens --BTW, just to add fuel to another fire, I don't 
>>> replace both batteries at the same time, I mix types, (one is AGM, one 
>>> is Wet) I prefer wet cells all round -- I know what the magazines and 
>>> west adviser say, I know the science behind it, but I'm a curious guy so 
>>> I try it out in my boat when it's not critical and what I find is that 
>>> on our boats with their minimal power needs it's really tough to drain 
>>> well maintained batteries.
>>>
>>> How did you do it?
>>>
>>> Bill Effros
>>>
>>> Bob Keller wrote:
>>>
>>>> I paid (overpaid?) someone to run cables from my electric start motor 
>>>> to the battery under the port settee.  Then we connected both batteries 
>>>> together and so now I charge both batteries with the motor, and two 
>>>> solar panels and even have an electric charger on board if needed. 
>>>> Guess what? My batteries are currently dead...
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, I vote with Chris who used jumper cables.  The cables in my 
>>>> boat are big-but I don't know the size.  Lots of useful information 
>>>> here, isn't there?
>>>> Bob K
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From: Michel Meltzer <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
>>>>> Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> To: 'The Rhodes 22 mail list' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] 12 volt wire gauge from OB to Cabin 
>>>>> (10'maxassumed)
>>>>> Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 13:33:35 -0500
>>>>>
>>>>> Been their before on the sizing, IIRC my run from the front(under the
>>>>> step) to the mount lungs was 16 feet each way(32 total) and the motor
>>>>> had #8 wire leads for 8 feet each way(meant to go on the battery) for
>>>>> another 16 feet worth, it a good trip,, because the batty is far away
>>>>> the voltage regulator also gets effected on charging(i.e. the voltage
>>>>> drop), after everything was said and done, #4 came out right and I 
>>>>> used
>>>>> #2 just to improve performance and all but handle a dead short. NOW #2
>>>>> could be a PITA for getting it passed the bulkhead but I did not have
>>>>> that issue. Using the breaker is just cheap insurance.
>>>>>
>>>>> -MJM
>>>>>
>>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>>> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-
>>>>> > bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of R22RumRunner at aol.com
>>>>> > Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 12:47 PM
>>>>> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 12 volt wire gauge from OB to Cabin
>>>>> (10'
>>>>> > maxassumed)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Bill,
>>>>> > Not necessarily true. Having to large a wire makes for difficult
>>>>> handling,
>>>>> > but also is a waste of money. Sizing the wire to the required
>>>>> project
>>>>> is
>>>>> > always
>>>>> >  the best way to go.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Rummy
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