[Rhodes22-list] cons of rhodes 22
TN Rhodey
tnrhodey at hotmail.com
Mon Sep 18 08:40:27 EDT 2006
Bob,
The Compac 23 has 2 major drawbacks compared to the R22. One is pointing.
The C23 has shoal keel and NO centerboard. If you think the R22 does
notpoint you out to sail a C23. I blow the doors off a local C23 on every
point of sail. The other thing I don't like about the C23 is no poptop. The
C23s are well made but they also have compromises. Lastly if you seek IMF
this is not available on C23.
When you compare the R22 to other shoal draft boats with CB (O'Days come to
mind) they point quite well. Also if you want to point high the 170 is not
the way to go. I can't comment on Diamond Board as Ihaveold style CB. My
boat points just fine.
Wally
>From: "Bob Keller" <r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] cons of rhodes 22
>Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 21:37:00 -0400
>
>Erly,
>I've had my '95 R-22 for 5 years in both fresh and salt water and I do love
>the boat, but the boat and design does have some drawbacks. It does not
>point very high into the wind because of the wide beam and lack of a deep
>fixed keel (which makes it trailerable). The keel centerboard combination
>is also a compromise and my "diamond-board" configuration is just not that
>great for windward sailing. In five years I have had ongoing, almost
>continuous problems with the centerboard not raising and lowering freely
>and am currently having those problems again. Matter of fact am going to
>pull the boat next weekend and try to repair the centerboard again. While
>the Compac 23 does not have the amenities, it does have a fixed keel and
>probably points better because I don't think the beam is as wide. Still, I
>chose the Rhodes over the Compac and have been very pleased, despite these
>ongoing problems. If you have the "older design" centerboard, you might be
>better off. Good luck.
>Bob K
>Yankee Clipper
>
>
>>From: "Erly Garner" <erlyg at charter.net>
>>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] cons of rhodes 22
>>Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 20:02:18 -0500
>>
>>My auto manual says absolutely 3500 lb. tow limit....Doesn't sound too
>>good. Maybe it's time I thought about getting a new car.
>>
>>Erly
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
>>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 7:47 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] cons of rhodes 22
>>
>>
>>>Erly, What's the van rated for? Our Chev Blazer is rated to tow 5,000
>>>lbs. It does ok hauling the Rhodes but we only tow it a couple of times a
>>>year. It we were to tow long distances more often and if we had a lot of
>>>hills we might look for something a little beefier. The Rhodes does tow
>>>well but it's fairly heavy for its size (all those amenities weigh
>>>something). Because of the 9 stays it takes a bit longer to set up than a
>>>boat with fewer. On the plus side is the IMF which allows you to raise
>>>mast, sails and boom all at once. Of course that bundle is heavier than
>>>the individual pieces so a mast raising system like the once GB sells
>>>comes in very handy.
>>>
>>>Best,
>>>
>>>Mary Lou
>>>1991 R22 Fretless
>>>Swan Creek (Rock Hall, MD)
>>>
>>>At 08:31 PM 9/17/2006, you wrote:
>>>>I'm probably about 5 hrs or so from Edenton and am planning a trip for a
>>>>check-out sail. I haven't heard any comments about towing with my
>>>>Toyota. I assume most are towed with an suv or resonably sized truck.
>>>>
>>>>Erly
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip" <3drecon at comcast.net>
>>>>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 7:17 PM
>>>>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] cons of rhodes 22
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>See, I said there is a negative for every positive and visa versa (i.e.
>>>>>the
>>>>>boring list).
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>>>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Brad Haslett
>>>>>Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 8:05 PM
>>>>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>>>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] cons of rhodes 22
>>>>>
>>>>>Philip,
>>>>>
>>>>>No, S2 (Tiara) is another great choice. They made a 22' foot boat that
>>>>>kicked ass on the racing circuit. Their gelcoat quality is legendary.
>>>>>The
>>>>>9.2 S2 center cockpit (my boat) gives the most room of any 30 footer
>>>>>ever
>>>>>built at the expense of being ugly. Leon Slicker, (S2 builder) is a
>>>>>'Stanish" kind of guy but on a larger scale (boat numbers wise).
>>>>>
>>>>>But....they have the dullest e-mail list in the history of sailboats.
>>>>>
>>>>>'Bigger is better' is only a state of mind. There are so many days
>>>>>that I
>>>>>long for the smaller boat. If you want a 22 footer, the search is
>>>>>over.
>>>>>
>>>>>Brad
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On 9/17/06, Philip <3drecon at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>One of the negatives is, it would be nice if it were 26 feet, but then
>>>>>>it
>>>>>>wouldn't be as easily "trailerable". It would be nice if the company
>>>>>>were
>>>>>a
>>>>>>great world wide corporation, but then you wouldn't get the personal
>>>>>>attention from the owner (Stan). I can't think of anymore negatives.
>>>>>>But
>>>>>>with each negative, there is a positive. This is one outstanding
>>>>>>boat.
>>>>>The
>>>>>>only reason to buy something else is size.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Philip
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:
>>>>>> >> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Erly Garner
>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 7:40 PM
>>>>>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] cons of rhodes 22
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ed K
>>>>>>I'm located close to Hickory, NC. Presently, I'm sold on the Rhodes
>>>>>>but
>>>>>>want to be informed of both sides of the coin before making an
>>>>>>investment.
>>>>>>I'm relatively certain that my present vehicle can't tow a Rhodes (93
>>>>>>Toyota
>>>>>>Previa Van) but have reserved hopes. There are bound to be some
>>>>>>negative
>>>>>>sides to a Rhodes, I just can't seem to find any.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Erly
>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: "Tootle" <ekroposki at charter.net>
>>>>>>To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 5:45 PM
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] cons of rhodes 22
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Erly:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You came to the wrong house to find con's to Rhodes 22. When
>>>>>>comparing with the Com-Pac line you have to go to the CP 25 to
>>>>>>compare. And
>>>>>>then you do not have the type trailerability of the Rhodes 22. As the
>>>>>>owner
>>>>>>of Com Pac told me, yes you can trail a 25, at the beginning of the
>>>>>>season
>>>>>>and at the end of the season.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you want to trail without a big truck there just is not
>>>>>>currently
>>>>>>another design that works like the Rhodes 22, tis fact.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One person can rig, launch, retrieve and unrig a Rhodes 22, it
>>>>>>is
>>>>>>done all the time by members of this list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where are you located? Have you seen a Rhodes 22? Look at
>>>>>>this web
>>>>>>site:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.frappr.com/rhodes22
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ed K
>>>>>>Greenville, SC, USA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Erly Garner wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Hi:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I've done limited sailing with my brother on his Compac 19. I'm
>>>>>>just
>>>>>>now
>>>>>> > getting serious about getting my own boat and my research
>>>>>>indicates > that
>>>>>> > the Rhodes 22 seems to be a real dream boat. I've got to have
>>>>>>an > easily
>>>>>> > trailerable craft (definite MUST), mostly plan on lake sailing,
>>>>>>girlfriend
>>>>>> > insists on enclosed head, a few lake side overnights on weekends,
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>want
>>>>>> > to do limited salt water upon retiring. Big brother say there is
>>>>>>no
>>>>>>other
>>>>>> > boat but the Compac. What are the down sides and disadvantages of
>>>>>>a
>>>>>> > Rhodes? How trailerable is it (smallest vehicle to pull)?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Thanks,
>>>>>> > Erly
>>>>>> > __________________________________________________
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>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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