[Rhodes22-list] Mast Crane Questions

[stan]

 the correct use of the extension chains with the hoist cross over system 
does not require any controlling of shrouds when you raise or lower a Rhodes 
mast.   just keep the area clear, close your eyes and turn the winch 
handle - no one alive today has ever reported a failure.

ss

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Crane Questions


> Art,
>
> That's exactly what I was doing as we raised the mast using the crane.
> Lou's boat was on land (blocks & stands) so all was very still and there 
> was
> no problem, really.  I had never used the crane before and was simply
> concerned about the lateral movement of the mast.  As you indicate, the 
> only
> lateral control you have is by applying pressure to the shrouds.
>
> I still feel much more "in control" when raising by hand.  With 2 people 
> on
> the foredeck, raising the mast from the bow, I have never worried about
> damage or loss, on the trailer or on water.  When I first started sailing 
> my
> R22 in '81, we trailered almost daily, setting up and launching in about 
> 30
> minutes with a 4 person team.  Now, we perform this action once or twice a
> season with a 2 person team, as we are moored in the river and not
> trailer-sailors any longer.  As with most things, age has decreased the
> frequency but not necessarily the ability.
>
> Mike
> s/v Shanghaid'd Summer ('81)
>       Nissequogue River, NY
>
> From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net> Thursday, August 30,
> 2007 10:47 PM
>> Mike,
>> Given that there is some sway in the mast as it is raised or lowered,
>> especially at the 45 degree point, the midway point, you can apply some
>> control through the shrouds by applying differential pressure to the
>> wires.  You have to be judicial, but if you apply pressure, in any
>> direction, on a shroud, the mast will move in that same direction.  I'd
>> practice this while on the trailer and see the effect.
>> Do you step the mast from the bow while on the water?  Maybe I mis-read.
>> Art
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>>From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
>>>Sent: Aug 30, 2007 1:18 PM
>>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Crane Questions
>>>
>>>Rummy,
>>>
>>>Lou had printed instructions that appeared to have been downloaded from
>>>the
>>>list.  I believe that they had originally been provided by Slim:
>>>http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/2005-April/022314.html
>>>We followed them and as the mast is raised, I fail to see what prevents
>>>sideways movement once the mast leaves the crutch.  I have stepped my 
>>>mast
>>>many times while on the water and am very concerned about lateral
>>>movement.
>>>I have always felt comfortable while raising the mast from the bow since 
>>>I
>>>maintained strong contact with the mast at all times.  When raising the
>>>mast
>>>from the stern using the crane system, the mast was out of reach for much
>>>of
>>>the time, too high to reach from the cockpit and to far astern to safely
>>>reach from the deck while operating the crane.  None of the shrouds were
>>>really tight enough to provide lateral restraint until it was nearly
>>>vertical and then, it was only the uppers.  When raised the old way, the
>>>uppers and forward lowers are never removed, providing immediate support
>>>of
>>>the mast when vertical (except for falling forward until the aft lowers
>>>are
>>>connected.)  What did we do wrong?
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>>>Nissequogue River, NY
>>>
>>>From: <R22RumRunner at aol.com> Thursday, August 30, 2007 12:51 PM
>>>> Mike,
>>>> The crane system, if used properly will not allow the mast to swing
>>>> sideways. I believe you missed something.
>>>>
>>>> Rummy
>>>>
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