[Rhodes22-list] Single handed over 25 feet

[Joseph Hadzima]

So based upon your answer to my question I guess the owner
of the A28 never invited you out for a fun sail.  Pitty,
had hopes of hearing you tell us about any real differences
between the A28 & R22.

happy sailing!


--- Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:

> Joe,
> 
> I know a number of people who single hand 40 foot boats. 
> But the old 
> boating axiom still applies:
> 
> "Boats will be used in inverse proportion to their
> length."
> 
> I literally don't think twice about single handing my
> boat in any kind 
> of weather.  When the weather gets worse I always go out
> alone because I 
> don't want to run the risk that someone will make a
> mistake putting both 
> of our lives in jeopardy.
> 
> I can and have single-handed larger boats than the Rhodes
> 22, but I have 
> no reason to do so.  If you're out there by yourself, the
> Rhodes 22 has 
> everything on it that you need.  And, most people can
> safely single-hand it.
> 
> Bill Effros
> 
> 
> 
> Joseph Hadzima wrote:
> > YEP the A28 costs a very pretty penny for a day sailer!
> >
> > Did you ever manage to get an invitation to sail on
> her?
> >
> >
> > --- TN Rhodey <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> Joe.
> >>
> >> There was an A28 slipped at our marina for a couple of
> >> years. Did you happen 
> >> to catch the price tag? One could spend 150K
> >> delivered.....tiny cabin but it 
> >> is a looker.
> >>
> >> Wally
> >>
> >>
> >>     
> >>> From: Joseph Hadzima <josef508 at yahoo.com>
> >>> Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >>>       
> >> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>     
> >>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Single handed over 25 feet
> >>> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 20:19:30 -0800 (PST)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Well if money wasn't an issue ... here is a boat over
> 25
> >>> feet that is easily single handed.  I got to fondle
> the
> >>> tiller at the Annapolis show  ... oooooo sexy!
> >>>
> >>>       http://www.alerionexpress28.com/
> >>>
> >>> BTW, it is NOT trailer-able :-)
> >>>
> >>> Do you think the R27 (a.k.a. GB27) may be looking at
> the
> >>> same set of prospects as the Alerion?
> >>>
> >>> The R22 is after a different market than the Capri22,
> >>> Precision 23, crowd, and thus the different price
> point.
> >>>
> >>> having molds to make a hull is one thing, knowing you
> >>> intended market will help determine what you put into
> >>>       
> >> and
> >>     
> >>> on top of the hull.
> >>>
> >>> So I guess one of the first questions is what is the
> >>> current R27 Hull designed to do?  Recall design is
> about
> >>> trade-offs, and Stan must have an idea which
> trade-offs
> >>> were made in this design.  Then a list of possible
> deck
> >>>       
> >> &
> >>     
> >>> rig designs can be generated for the various
> purposes. 
> >>>       
> >> Is
> >>     
> >>> this a good race hull, or a cruising hull, .........
> >>>
> >>> Then we'll know (I mean have an idea) what CAN be
> built,
> >>>       
> >> at
> >>     
> >>> what cost, and whether there exists a market for this
> >>>       
> >> type
> >>     
> >>> of craft.
> >>>
> >>> I think a "board" (of directors, investors, nosey
> >>>       
> >> people,
> >>     
> >>> etc.) meeting is in required ... complete with
> beverages
> >>> and a white board with those cool scented dry erase
> >>>       
> >> markers
> >>     
> >>> (I can feel my head spinning now - no need for pot).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- Bud <budconnor at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>       
> >>>> Rummy,
> >>>>    we all know the R22 is delightful to sail
> >>>> single-handed.   I wonder
> >>>> at what size of boat does sailing alone become
> >>>> so more challenging such that its not much fun ...
> >>>>         
> >> would
> >>     
> >>>> it be 26'
> >>>> 27'   30'?   For me, I think a 25' would still
> >>>> be a lot of fun to sail alone ... I don't know about
> >>>>         
> >> a
> >>     
> >>>> 27' boat.
> >>>>
> >>>> -Bud
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>         
> >>>>> Dave,
> >>>>> There are a lot of questions and right now few
> >>>>>           
> >> answers.
> >>     
> >>>> The reason to build
> >>>>         
> >>>>> the R27 would be simple to state because a lot of
> >>>>>           
> >> R22
> >>     
> >>>> owners want all the
> >>>>         
> >>>>> goodies that we have become accustomed to in the
> R22
> >>>>>           
> >>>> that are not available in
> >>>>         
> >>>>> any other boat, in totality. Only Stan listens to
> >>>>>           
> >> his
> >>     
> >>>> buyers and understands
> >>>>         
> >>>>> what makes us tick. I would like a larger boat
> >>>>>           
> >> simply
> >>     
> >>>> for the amenities, but do
> >>>>         
> >>>>> not want to give up anything. I sail a lot single
> >>>>>           
> >>>> handed and want to
> >>>>         
> >>>>> continue  being able to do so.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Rummy
> >>>>> __________________________________________________
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> >>>>>           
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> >>>>         
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>           
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HADZ (a.k.a. joe)

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