[Rhodes22-list] Single handed over 25 feet

[Joseph Hadzima]

Bill, Wally sorry for the mix up !

On my computer everyone has the same font, and thus looks
alike.



--- TN Rhodey <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Joe,
> 
> I was the one that mentioned the A28.....yes I had an
> invite but the owner 
> sold his boat before I ever had a chance to take him up
> on his offer. The 
> owner is quite wealthy and he can not seem to find a boat
> that makes him 
> happy. In 4 years he has owned a couple of Benetau 30
> somethings, a J 80, 
> the A 28 and now he has a 30 something C & C with bunch
> of carbon fiber.
> 
> Wally
> 
> 
> >From: Joseph Hadzima <josef508 at yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Single handed over 25 feet
> >Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 09:27:12 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >So based upon your answer to my question I guess the
> owner
> >of the A28 never invited you out for a fun sail.  Pitty,
> >had hopes of hearing you tell us about any real
> differences
> >between the A28 & R22.
> >
> >happy sailing!
> >
> >
> >--- Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Joe,
> > >
> > > I know a number of people who single hand 40 foot
> boats.
> > > But the old
> > > boating axiom still applies:
> > >
> > > "Boats will be used in inverse proportion to their
> > > length."
> > >
> > > I literally don't think twice about single handing my
> > > boat in any kind
> > > of weather.  When the weather gets worse I always go
> out
> > > alone because I
> > > don't want to run the risk that someone will make a
> > > mistake putting both
> > > of our lives in jeopardy.
> > >
> > > I can and have single-handed larger boats than the
> Rhodes
> > > 22, but I have
> > > no reason to do so.  If you're out there by yourself,
> the
> > > Rhodes 22 has
> > > everything on it that you need.  And, most people can
> > > safely single-hand it.
> > >
> > > Bill Effros
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Joseph Hadzima wrote:
> > > > YEP the A28 costs a very pretty penny for a day
> sailer!
> > > >
> > > > Did you ever manage to get an invitation to sail on
> > > her?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- TN Rhodey <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Joe.
> > > >>
> > > >> There was an A28 slipped at our marina for a
> couple of
> > > >> years. Did you happen
> > > >> to catch the price tag? One could spend 150K
> > > >> delivered.....tiny cabin but it
> > > >> is a looker.
> > > >>
> > > >> Wally
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> From: Joseph Hadzima <josef508 at yahoo.com>
> > > >>> Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > >>>
> > > >> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > >>
> > > >>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > >>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Single handed over 25
> feet
> > > >>> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 20:19:30 -0800 (PST)
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Well if money wasn't an issue ... here is a boat
> over
> > > 25
> > > >>> feet that is easily single handed.  I got to
> fondle
> > > the
> > > >>> tiller at the Annapolis show  ... oooooo sexy!
> > > >>>
> > > >>>       http://www.alerionexpress28.com/
> > > >>>
> > > >>> BTW, it is NOT trailer-able :-)
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Do you think the R27 (a.k.a. GB27) may be looking
> at
> > > the
> > > >>> same set of prospects as the Alerion?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The R22 is after a different market than the
> Capri22,
> > > >>> Precision 23, crowd, and thus the different price
> > > point.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> having molds to make a hull is one thing, knowing
> you
> > > >>> intended market will help determine what you put
> into
> > > >>>
> > > >> and
> > > >>
> > > >>> on top of the hull.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> So I guess one of the first questions is what is
> the
> > > >>> current R27 Hull designed to do?  Recall design
> is
> > > about
> > > >>> trade-offs, and Stan must have an idea which
> > > trade-offs
> > > >>> were made in this design.  Then a list of
> possible
> > > deck
> > > >>>
> > > >> &
> > > >>
> > > >>> rig designs can be generated for the various
> > > purposes.
> > > >>>
> > > >> Is
> > > >>
> > > >>> this a good race hull, or a cruising hull,
> .........
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Then we'll know (I mean have an idea) what CAN be
> > > built,
> > > >>>
> > > >> at
> > > >>
> > > >>> what cost, and whether there exists a market for
> this
> > > >>>
> > > >> type
> > > >>
> > > >>> of craft.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I think a "board" (of directors, investors, nosey
> > > >>>
> > > >> people,
> > > >>
> > > >>> etc.) meeting is in required ... complete with
> > > beverages
> > > >>> and a white board with those cool scented dry
> erase
> > > >>>
> > > >> markers
> > > >>
> > > >>> (I can feel my head spinning now - no need for
> pot).
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --- Bud <budconnor at earthlink.net> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Rummy,
> > > >>>>    we all know the R22 is delightful to sail
> > > >>>> single-handed.   I wonder
> > > >>>> at what size of boat does sailing alone become
> > > >>>> so more challenging such that its not much fun
> ...
> > > >>>>
> > > >> would
> > > >>
> > > >>>> it be 26'
> > > >>>> 27'   30'?   For me, I think a 25' would still
> > > >>>> be a lot of fun to sail alone ... I don't know
> about
> > > >>>>
> > > >> a
> 
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HADZ (a.k.a. joe)

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