[Rhodes22-list] reefing

JbTek j.bulfer at jbtek.com
Sun Feb 18 08:02:43 EST 2007


We went with the intention of going on a flotilla on our own boat, (with a
captain) for a much needed learning experience.
Somehow that fell thru, scheduling problem they said. That trip was inteded
to expidite this whole adventure,
 I think it set me back.

    Jb
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] reefing


> The Caribbean is one of my least favorite sailing places.  It is often
> too windy for safe sailing of small boats by people who have seldom
> sailed before.  The big boats need that much wind to ensure you can sail
> every day.  Too many jerks who don't know what they are doing.
>
> An R-22 would be perfect for those waters, but the only boats available
> tend to be either bigger or smaller.
>
>
> Bill Effros
>
> JbTek wrote:
> > My wife & I spent 5 days at Cub Colona in Antigua. We got on a Hobiecat
and
> > capsize first thing outa the gate.
> > I faced some fear that day.
> > We did right the boat & sail back in but go out much after that, it was
> > pretty windy.
> >
> >     Jb
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Joseph Hadzima" <josef508 at yahoo.com>
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 9:40 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] reefing
> >
> >
> >
> >> Hi Jb
> >>
> >> I hope I'm not stepping out of bounds here .. but I do have
> >> one unsolisited suggestion (don't you just hate advice when
> >> you don't ask fo it).
> >>
> >> I suggest you rent a little dinghy or Sunfish at a nice
> >> lake somewhere. Then you and your first mate go out and
> >> practice capsizing.  You gotta get wet once, so you don't
> >> let the fear make decisions for you with your own boat.
> >>
> >> The Rhodes may be unsinkable, but I believe Rummy has
> >> managed a knock down or two - and can give you the details.
> >>
> >> I was crew on a keel boat when the new skipper did a gybe a
> >> little too quickly in heavy air and managed to fill the
> >> cockpit about 1/2 way with very cold water!
> >>
> >> My wife was a little scared at first, but got comfotable
> >> enough so she likes to go fast these days. She's the one
> >> that will "burry the rail" if given the chance.
> >>
> >> Address the fear issues soon (read as practice, and take
> >> lessons), so you'll have enjoyable sailing for many more
> >> years.
> >>
> >> just my $0.02  or is that .002 in Verizon money?
> >>
> >> --- JbTek <j.bulfer at jbtek.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Ed,
> >>> I've only read about reefing. I've been sailing 3 times,
> >>> 2 of those in very
> >>> light wind. What got me hooked was one of those times was
> >>> on a 47' Beneteau
> >>> and they let me take the wheel just outside San Diego
> >>> harbor. When we caught
> >>> a gust of wind you could just feel the power drive you
> >>> forward. We heeled
> >>> over some & the wife got very nervous. I couldn't tell
> >>> you if we were reefed
> >>> or not. I can tell you I see the benefits of IMF and I
> >>> believe she will
> >>> insist on it.
> >>>     I know the R22 has lots of features, I would want to
> >>> know if you could
> >>> not have them all, which would take priority. The obvious
> >>> from where I sit,
> >>> IMF & the swivel chairs look comfortable.
> >>>
> >>> What does a sail weigh? I think Rummy said the mast only
> >>> weighs 16lbs.
> >>>
> >>>     Jb
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>> From: "Tootle" <ekroposki at charter.net>
> >>> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 5:10 AM
> >>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Roller Reefing on Rhodes
> >>> Continental?
> >>> Luis?JayBulfer?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Luis and Jay:
> >>>
> >>> One reason why Rhodes 22s are different is that a certain
> >>> nautical engineer
> >>> was always tinkering with the boats as they were being
> >>> built.  Could it be
> >>> that in 1975 that elusive nautical innovator was
> >>> experimenting on what was
> >>> to become your boat with the known technology of boom
> >>> roller reefing?  Boom
> >>> roller reefing does allow battens and weight of sails is
> >>> maintained lower.
> >>> Humm? Tinker, tinker at 4 AM?
> >>>
> >>> Ed K
> >>> Greenville, SC, USA
> >>> Addendum for Jay if he is still here:
> >>>
> >>> â?oReefing means reducing the area of a sail without
> >>> actually changing it for
> >>> a smaller sail. Ideally reefing does not only result in a
> >>> reduced sail area
> >>> but also in a lower center of effort from the sails,
> >>> reducing the heeling
> >>> moment and keeping the boat more upright.â??
> >>>
> >>> â?oIn-boom roller-reefingâ?? is accomplished  â?owith a
> >>> horizontal foil inside the
> >>> boom. This method allows for standard- or full-length
> >>> horizontal battens.â??
> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sailing
> >>>
> >>> But an earier version of boom reefing had the whole boom
> >>> turn and wrap the
> >>> sail on the outside of the boom. There were wooden booms
> >>> that could do that.
> >>> I would also point out that there are/were rotating mast
> >>> to achieve reefing.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -- 
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> >>>
> >>>
> >
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> >
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> >>>
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