[Rhodes22-list] FYI: Hunting/riding sail/petelargo

Mary Lou Troy mtroy at atlanticbb.net
Mon Feb 19 20:20:23 EST 2007


elle,
Glad to hear the riding sail is a snap as that is on my short list of 
boat projects. What weight is the Odyssey? I went to a seminar at the 
Phila Strictly Sail with one of the people from Banner Bay. He did a 
nice job talking about how the sail should be cut and set up without 
pushing his own product too much.

Mary Lou
1991 R22 Fretless
Rock Hall, MD



At 08:13 PM 2/19/2007, you wrote:
>Robert,
>
>(FYI) Those are good links, and the advice is right on
>the money, but I'd like the list to know that the
>riding sail that Banner Bay advertises is incredible
>expensive...and heavy.
>
>I just made one for a friend (with a little help from
>Chris G!) using Odyssey from Sailrite: everything,
>including shipping came to @ $70. And it was a snap to
>make.
>
>If you want tricolor, just buy three pcs of
>different-colored rip-stop nylon, be prepared to say a
>few of your favorite words,(It's a bit slippery..but
>Sailrite has a solution for that) and have a sharp
>sail for a fraction of Banner Bay's.
>
>Anyone with basic sewing skills & a a sewing machine
>can make one.
>
>elle
>
>
>--- Robert Skinner <robert at squirrelhaven.com> wrote:
>
> > Some answers to the "Hunting" problem:
> >
> > There are at least three ways to reduce or eliminate
> > hunting:
> >
> > *  Use a riding sail.
> >
> > http://www.bannerbaymarine.com/
> > http://www.sailrite.com/Tips/riggingthesail.htm
> >
> > *  On a single hook, first set the hook as usual,
> > then tie a
> > second line to the rode 10 to 20 feet out in front
> > of the bow.
> > You may have to temporarily haul in some rode to
> > reach that
> > point.  Depending on the type of rode, you can
> > either use a
> > rolling hitch
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_hitch
> >
> > or for a stronger union, the butterfly knot
> >
> > http://www.iland.net/~jbritton/butterflyknot.htm
> >
> > Note that both of these will weaken the rode
> > somewhat, as
> > will any knot.
> >
> > Lead the extra line back to a midships cleat and
> > make it fast.
> > Adjust it so that the boat is at a slight angle to
> > the wind
> > or tide, so that it will sail out to one side and
> > stay there.
> >
> > *  As you suggest, set a second hook.  Upside is
> > that you
> > have some redundancy.  The downside is that if wind
> > or tide
> > shifts, you may foul one anchor with the other -- if
> > they
> > are not sufficiently far apart, as is the case with
> > a
> > bahamian mooring.
> >
> >
>http://www.pelicanpower.com/abacoguide/bahamianmoor.htm
> >
> > You will undoutedly find more authoritative answers
> > in Chapman's
> > or Annapolis Sailing School books.
> >
> > /Robert
> >
> > R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > Pete,
> > > Just wondering if you have any chain between the
> > anchor and the rode? Glad
> > > you are getting some use out of her. Have you
> > picked a name yet?
> > > Scratches add character. They are also easily
> > fixed. Isn't boating  fun?
> > > What you call fishtailing is what we call hunting.
> > The R22 because of the
> > > hull shape is prone to this. The use of two
> > anchors can reduce this phenom, but
> > > I doubt that you can eliminate it. It's just the
> > nature of the hull.
> > >
> > > Rummy
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>
>
>We can't change the angle of the wind....but we can adjust our sails.
>
>
>
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