[Rhodes22-list] R22 List focus

Brad Haslett flybrad at gmail.com
Thu Jul 12 11:14:10 EDT 2007 

Art,

Show me a pilot without an ego and I'll show you a shitty pilot.  That said,
we teach classes on how to keep egos in check in the cockpit.  I know, I
teach the subject.

Managing the Bo list was an issue for me because there are about 60 to 100
posts per day and only about 5 or so even pertain to my early model.
Politics isn't allowed by charter but some slips in from time to time. Most
of the stuff is pertinent but there are over 10,000 Bo's out there and a few
hundred on the list.  Once I started sending their e-mails to a separate
account I found it quite easy to manage.

I suspect what most people are really complaining about is the R-22 list
clutters their in-box.  Simple.  Get a different box!  If you win your
battle to 'sanitize'  da' list, fine by me.  You'll go back to getting TEST
messages and being bored.

How's this for a solution?  Find the DELETE key on the keyboard.  Others
have set their computers to automatically delete posts from certain people -
like me.  They miss out on a lot of wisdom but seem to survive anyway.

Poor things!

Brad

On 7/12/07, Arthur H. Czerwonky <czerwonky at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> Brad,
>
> Just like you say, let's keep the egos in check.  BTW, I have never known
> a fellow pilot without an ego, some healthy, some not.
>
> My best suggestion to Al might be to just delete Political subject
> messages, many of late, and only pull up the others.
>
> I'd hate to see our population on the list fall off because a few have
> gotten carried away from the R22 theme.  I have gotten more than just a few
> off-list responses in agreement.
>
> Art
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com>
> >Sent: Jul 12, 2007 10:25 AM
> >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bashing Bush is fun.Enough Already
> >
> >Art,
> >
> >Exactly what the hell are you talking about?  I didn't invite Al or
> anyone
> >else off the list.  It isn't my list.  I suggested a method, actually
> >several, he could use to manage his e-mail, that is all.  Do you need
> some
> >new glasses?  There are no egos on the Bonanza list.  We are all pilots
> >there and have a reputation to maintain of keeping our egos in check.
> >
> >Brad
> >
> >On 7/12/07, Arthur H. Czerwonky <czerwonky at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Brad,
> >>
> >> I sent an earlier email a few minutes ago.  Are you really inviting Al
> off
> >> of our only Rhodes Board?  I think I want to see Stan's input before I
> >> ignore the points Al has made.  I can only imagine how the EGO flows on
> the
> >> Beechcraft Bonanza list, but this list is about the Rhodes 22
> community, not
> >> the political ego of Rhodes 22 sailors at each other's throats about
> the war
> >> in the Middle East.  This is our only existing list for sharing sailing
> with
> >> each other, let's not spoil it for ourselves or others.  Sounds a
> little
> >> selfish to me.
> >>
> >> I suggest that any of the list members that prefer or stress politics
> to
> >> the Rhoades should create an address group within their email for the
> >> exchange of their political themes, call it the political list, and
> channel
> >> such email in this direction.  It is easy to do, and thereby keep the
> R22 BB
> >> more focused on its sailing themes.
> >>
> >> Let's get it together, team!
> >>
> >> Art
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >From: Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com>
> >> >Sent: Jul 11, 2007 11:24 PM
> >> >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bashing Bush is fun.Enough Already
> >> >
> >> >Al,
> >> >
> >> >I feel your pain (and promise more of it).  Seriously, get an e-mail
> >> account
> >> >where you can have different mailboxes, or a separate e-mail account
> for
> >> the
> >> >various lists.  This list is mild with spurious responses compared to
> the
> >> >Beechcraft Bonanza list I belong to.  For that one I use yahoo and
> have
> >> the
> >> >posts sent to a specific mailbox.  I can then sort the "wheat from the
> >> >chaff" at my leisure.  For this one I use the Gmail account
> exclusively.
> >> >Someone else will explain this list to you I'm sure.  Many, if not
> most
> >> of
> >> >us are friends.  We'd tell you who we associate most with off list but
> >> we'd
> >> >have to kill you.  Stick around, it gets funner and funner!
> >> >
> >> >Brad
> >> >
> >> >On 7/11/07, Alan Robertson <bigal_61 at msn.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> You know I signed up for the Rhodes 22 mailing list at Stan's
> >> suggestion a
> >> >> couple of months ago to find out more about new equipment, sailing
> >> >> experiences and how the newer Rhodes have been upgraded since I
> bought
> >> and
> >> >> have sailed mine since '83.
> >> >> Most of the correspondence been on the Site has been political
> mouthing
> >> >> off - just like the "ding-a-lings who call into the radio talk shows
> to
> >> hear
> >> >> themselves talk, but in case of the Site, to write.
> >> >> Come on Guys - give it a rest!
> >> >> Although I agree with most of the points on Iraq and the Washington
> >> >> Administration, I hate to have to delete 40-50 messages of pure
> >> bullshit
> >> >> from my junk mail every day where my Rhodes 22 mail now goes. I have
> to
> >> look
> >> >> at the Junk to see if I recognize the senders who inquire or answer
> >> about
> >> >> Rhodes 22 topics on the Site.
> >> >> Their Mail goes into the Rhodes 22 "Keep" file. Topics such as
> furling
> >> >> mains, travelers, solar panel and installation, spinnakers and
> whisker
> >> poles
> >> >> are valuable and appreciated.
> >> >> The rest of you can go hire a soapbox!!
> >> >>
> >> >> Bigal
> >> >> (A Vet)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >>   From: Brad Haslett<mailto:flybrad at gmail.com>
> >> >>   To: The Rhodes 22 mail list<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> >>   Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 10:59 PM
> >> >>   Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bashing Bush is fun.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>   Dave,
> >> >>
> >> >>   The change I'd like to see is the primaries grouped closer
> together
> >> so
> >> >>   states like Iowa and New Hampshire don't have influence well
> beyond
> >> >> their
> >> >>   size.  You'd see ethanol hit the skids in the marketplace if every
> >> >>   Presidential candidate didn't have to pay homage to the Corn God.
> >> >>
> >> >>   Now on other issues - politics does indeed make for strange
> >> bedfellows.
> >> >>   Wally will be glad to hear that Harold Ford, Jr. will be the
> likely
> >> >>   opposition to Lamar Alexander in TN this fall.  I've been writing
> >> >> Alexander
> >> >>   every day this week, encouraging him not to go wobbly on Iraq.  If
> he
> >> >> does,
> >> >>   I'll throw my support behind Ford.  I almost voted for him
> >> >> anyway.  There is
> >> >>   an element of us conservatives who are ready to take a scorched
> earth
> >> >> policy
> >> >>   on Iraq and it is gaining momentum.  No other issue comes anywhere
> >> near
> >> >> the
> >> >>   importance.  Dave can beat his chest all he wants.  There may be
> an
> >> "ass
> >> >>   whup'n" coming to the GOP and it won't come from the Donkeys.
> >> >>
> >> >>   Brad
> >> >>
> >> >>   On 7/11/07, David Bradley <dwbrad at gmail.com<mailto:
> dwbrad at gmail.com>>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>   >
> >> >>   > Maybe I read Herb's note wrong...  I'll let him 'splain.
> >> >>   >
> >> >>   > For what it's worth, although I think the last election was a
> >> farce, I
> >> >>   > thought the issues had more to do with Florida election and
> Supreme
> >> >> Court
> >> >>   > irregularities.  It seems to me that the electoral college still
> >> plays
> >> >> a
> >> >>   > useful role in reminding people about the states part of United
> >> States
> >> >> of
> >> >>   > America, and is a safeguard of the role of the states in our
> system
> >> of
> >> >>   > government.
> >> >>   >
> >> >>   > Dave
> >> >>   >
> >> >>   >
> >> >>   > On 7/11/07, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com<mailto:
> >> flybrad at gmail.com>>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>   > >
> >> >>   > > Robert,
> >> >>   > >
> >> >>   > > You know better.  Everyone knew the rules.  If you don't like
> >> them,
> >> >>   > lobby
> >> >>   > > to
> >> >>   > > get them changed.  I have mixed emotions about the Electoral
> >> >> College,
> >> >>   > but
> >> >>   > > that is the current game.  If the election were based on the
> >> popular
> >> >>   > vote,
> >> >>   > > candidates like Bush would spend more time in big states like
> >> >> California
> >> >>   > > mining for total votes (as opposed to electoral votes).
> >> >>   > >
> >> >>   > > David,
> >> >>   > >
> >> >>   > > What makes you think Herb is opposed to a woman
> President?  I'm
> >> >>   > certainly
> >> >>   > > not, I'd vote for Condi in a heartbeat.  There are a gazillion
> >> >> reasons
> >> >>   > not
> >> >>   > > to like Hillary.  Her gender is the least among them.
> >> >>   > >
> >> >>   > > Brad
> >> >>   > >
> >> >>   > > On 7/11/07, Robert Skinner <robert at squirrelhaven.com<mailto:
> >> >> robert at squirrelhaven.com>> wrote:
> >> >>   > > >
> >> >>   > > > Herb - that was MY point.  Review your exact words.
> >> >>   > > > I know it's a Texas tradition to shoot from the hip,
> >> >>   > > > but I expected more from you, even in the heat of a
> >> >>   > > > diatribe.
> >> >>   > > >
> >> >>   > > > Gore got more popular votes.  The electoral college
> >> >>   > > > is an artifact of our republican (small "S") framers'
> >> >>   > > > thinking, and allows politicians of all stripes to
> >> >>   > > > "game" the system.
> >> >>   > > >
> >> >>   > > > I didn't have a "civics" class.  I read the Federalist
> >> >>   > > > Papers in their uncut form during several years of
> >> >>   > > > American History classes.
> >> >>   > > >
> >> >>   > > > Now knock off the personal attacks.  They do not help
> >> >>   > > > your arguments -- they weaken them.
> >> >>   > > >
> >> >>   > > > /Robert
> >> >>   > > > -----------------------------------------------------
> >> >>   > > > Herb Parsons wrote:
> >> >>   > > > >
> >> >>   > > > > Another one who didn't pay attention in civics class. Gore
> >> >> didn't
> >> >>   > get
> >> >>   > > > more votes. It's the electoral college that counts.
> >> >>   > > > >
> >> >>   > > > > When you lost at little league games, I bet it was the
> ref's
> >> >> fault
> >> >>   > > too,
> >> >>   > > > right?
> >> >>   > > > >
> >> >>   > > > > Herb Parsons
> >> >>   > > > >
> >> >>   > > > > S/V O'Jure
> >> >>   > > > >   1976 O'Day 25
> >> >>   > > > >   Lake Grapevine, N TX
> >> >>   > > > >
> >> >>   > > > > S/V Reve de Papa
> >> >>   > > > >   1971 Coronado 35
> >> >>   > > > >   Lake Pontchartrain, Louisiana Coast
> >> >>   > > > >
> >> >>   > > > > >>> Robert Skinner <robert at squirrelhaven.com<mailto:
> >> >> robert at squirrelhaven.com>> 7/11/2007 8:06 PM >>>
> >> >>   > > > > Herb Parsons wrote:
> >> >>   > > > > > Rummy,
> >> >>   > > > > > You didn't pay attention in civics class... you get to
> go
> >> to
> >> >>   > > > > > polls and vote. After all the votes are in, the man who
> >> gets
> >> >>   > > > > > the most votes becomes the President of the United
> >> States...
> >> >>   > > > >
> >> >>   > > > > So we have Gore as our president?
> >> >>   > > > >
> >> >>   > > > > Stalin said: "Those who cast the votes decide nothing.
> >> >>   > > > > Those who count the votes decide everything."
> >> >>   > > > >
> >> >>   > > > > In case you dispute the quote, see:
> >> >>   > > > >
> http://www.votefraud.org/josef_stalin_vote_fraud_page.htm<
> >> >> http://www.votefraud.org/josef_stalin_vote_fraud_page.htm>
> >> >>   > > > >
> >> >>   > > > > If you remember the vote, fear for our democracy...
> >> >>   > > > >
> >> >>   > > > > /Robert
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