[Rhodes22-list] Economics

Fri Mar 23 11:48:15 EDT 2007

Ed, Reread my post.... no one blamed Bush....are you really that dense? I 
said our economy was a house of cards.....no blame was even suggested. A 
little defensive? I did say Brad was discounting the potential problem 
looming because he was drinking Bush's cool aid. Again Bush did not cause 
this. The lending crisis is not a government issue although it may be the 
government (us!) paying for this. Also Bush had no influence on lending 
guidelines or the problem. This is not a liberal or conservative issue.

Wally

>From: Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net>
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>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Economics
>Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 06:07:51 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
>Wally:
>
>      What you have said is particularly true where house values are
>overvalued in anticipation of increasing in value.  I suspect a big time
>shake out coming.  However, you blame Bush.  Come on now, where were the
>Democratic critics a couple of years past.
>
>       Bush's stated intent was to allow anybody who really wanted a house 
>to
>be able to get one.  His ecomomics have helped that goal.  Now it is up to
>them to keep them.
>
>        Not all will.  However, I suspect many will.  The current default
>rate in the sub prime market is quoted as 23%.  Truth is it will go up in a
>recession.  Remember some of the creative sub par financiing was pure
>speculation.
>
>        There will be some creative ways to help prevent defaults, but that
>does not answer your premise, why was the situation permitted.  It is a
>general governance issue and legislators of both parties did not want to 
>say
>or do anything.
>
>        What is more interesting to look at is the declining value of the
>dollar.  They say inflation is under control.  However, what you get for 
>the
>dollar is less.  So the value of some of those homes under duress is not 
>the
>same value in dollars as a few years ago.  Hum.  Another way to hide facts.
>
>        This is not a Bush issue, but the way the politicians and press 
>hide
>the truth.  If it were a liberal democrat in office, they would be looking
>elsewere, and so would you.
>
>Ed K
>Greenville, SC, USA
>
>
>
>TN Rhodey wrote:
> >
> > Brad, You have been to be busy being a cheer leader for Bush to notice 
>our
> > economy is unbalanced. I told you several months ago that the mortgage 
>and
> > home industry was "a house of cards and heading for huge correction". 
>You
> > responded and said your home values are fine in Memphis .....
> >
> > The largest sub-prime lenders are in trouble and in the last 90 days 
>some
> > 30
> > mortgage banks have closed or pulled out of sub-prime lending. The other
> > shoe will drop when all the folks with low Interest Only payments, 
>balloon
> > 2
> > nds, or ARMs have to refinance and find they can not because they owe 
>more
> > than the home is worth. They will be stuck with a rising payment they 
>can
> > no
> > longer make. The common trend in home buying has been 100% financing. In
> > the
> > old days you needed to have 20% or so. Being upside down equity wise in 
>a
> > car is bad...evenworse when you are upside down in equity in you rhome.
> > Many
> > folks are upside down in equity in their home and 2 car payments. Like i
> > said we are building anice house of cards.
> >
> > Do a google search for "sub prime lending woes".
> >
> > The leaders of companies like New Century maybe looking at jail time. 
>This
> > is tied into our overall economy in more ways than most understand.
> >
> > Wally
> >
> >
> >>From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
> >>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Economics
> >>Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 08:48:18 -0500
> >>
> >>Hunker down boys and girls and protect your investments - the sky isn't
> >>falling but we're going to have a low ceiling for awhile.  Follow any
> >>benchmark you want but this is one of the best predictors out there. The
> >>understatement is "automotive and housing", that is a huge chunk of the
> >>economy and both are going through major corrections. Don't believe that
> >>last sentence, it's boilerplate "the world would be safe if it wasn't 
>for
> >>those damn pilots" bullshit.  Brad
> >>
> >>--------------------------------
> >>
> >>    Slowing Economy Takes a Toll On FedEx's Quarterly Results
> >>------------------------------
> >>
> >>FedEx Corp. reported Wednesday that its earnings dropped 1.9% in the
>fiscal
> >>third quarter, stung by the slowing economy, lower fuel surcharges and
> >>severe winter weather.
> >>
> >>The package-delivery company, which is seen as a bellwether for the
>overall
> >>economy, also lowered its outlook for fiscal fourth-quarter earnings,
> >>tightening both ends of the forecast range by a nickel share. FedEx also
> >>said that, while its long-term goal remains 10% to 15% annual growth in
> >>earnings per share, growth during the coming fiscal year may fall short
> >>because of the sluggish economy and investments that FedEx expects to 
>make
> >>in its business.
> >>
> >>"The U.S. economy grew at a lower rate than we expected in the third
> >>quarter, and we saw continued adjustments in the automotive and housing
> >>markets," FedEx Chairman, President and Chief Executive Fred Smith said 
>in
> >>the press release. "I believe, however, this represents a healthy
> >>transition
> >>for the economy as it phases into a more sustainable growth rate.
> >>
> >>"FedEx is in excellent position to take full advantage of global
> >>economic-growth trends and deliver overall outstanding financial results
>in
> >>the long run," Mr. Smith said.
> >>
> >>The Memphis, Tenn., company earned $420 million, or $1.35 a share, in 
>the
> >>quarter ended Feb. 28, compared with $428 million, or $1.38 a share, a
>year
> >>earlier. Revenue rose 7% to $8.59 billion.
> >>
> >>The results, which marked the first profit decline for the delivery 
>giant
> >>in
> >>more than three years, were at the high end of the $1.20 to $1.35 a 
>share
> >>forecast range the company set in December, when it reported
>second-quarter
> >>results. Earnings topped analysts' forecasts, while revenue missed
> >>expectations. Analysts polled by Thomson Financial expected, on average,
> >>earnings of $410.1 million, or $1.33 a share, on revenue of $8.7 
>billion.
> >>
> >>FedEx previously said the typical surge in holiday-related freight 
>volumes
> >>was "a bit delayed," the latest sign that a slowdown starting in the
>summer
> >>and fall at many railroads and trucking companies may be spreading to
> >>package carriers that handle many shipments on the last leg of their
> >>journey.
> >>
> >>FedEx's average daily package volume in its express and ground 
>businesses
> >>rose 4% in the latest quarter, compared with the year-earlier period,
> >>helped
> >>by growth in international express.
> >>
> >>Revenue in the express business rose 3% to $5.52 billion, and revenue in
> >>the
> >>ground business increased 12% to $1.52 billion. FedEx's freight revenue
> >>rose
> >>30% to $1.1 billion. The Kinko's retail-shipping and office-supply
> >>business,
> >>however, continued struggling, with revenue declining 3% to $485 
>million.
> >>
> >>FedEx expects to earn between $1.93 and $2.08 a share during the current
> >>quarter. Its prior guidance had been $1.98 to $2.13 a share. Analysts
> >>polled
> >>by Thomson Financial expect, on average, for the company to earn $2.03 a
> >>share during the quarter.
> >>
> >>Excluding second-quarter costs associated with the new pilot labor
>contract
> >>at the FedEx Express segment, the company expects to earn between $6.70
>and
> >>$6.85 a share for the year. Its prior guidance had been $6.60 to $6.90 a
> >>share.
> >>
> >>*Wall Street Journal*
> >>
> >>*3/21/2007*
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