[Rhodes22-list] Retrieval of Boat

[Todd Tavares]

 Alan

Securing the bow of the boat by tying off to the bow pulpit doesn't sound
like a very good idea. This may be overkill but see:

http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200405/26/CopyofStarboardBowViewLabeled.jpg

Todd T.

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Alan Robertson"
  To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
  Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Retrieval of Boat
  Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:14:29 -0400


  Good to hear from you Claude. One tip I omitted was to run a tight
  3/8 - 1/2" line secured to the bottom of a bow pulpit side support
  down to the trailer's side channel itself. When hitting a bump or
  pothole at higher speeds, this restrains the boat bow from jerking
  up and down and keeps the trailer hitch from jumping off the ball
  of the towing vehicle. We used this with only the cockpit tie down
  strap securing the boat on the trailer and it work very well.
  Alan

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Claude Cox
  To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
  Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 12:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Retrieval of Boat


  Hi Alan;

  For this trip, I was able to find a speed at which there was no
  fish-tailing. I did retract the bow chock, but only after hitting the
  road
  and needing to stop to do some adjustment. And I will leave less of
  the
  bunks showing the next time I pull.

  I left the motor and rudder attached to the stern, but secured them
  well,
  and had no problem with tail-gaters.

  I'm probably a couple of years away from replacing my tow vehicle,
  but I
  will be getting a heftier engine to be sure. Thanks for your post and
  the
  useful suggestions.

  Claude
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Alan Robertson" >
  To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
  >
  Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 10:22 PM
  Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Retrieval of Boat


  > Claude,
  > We trailered from '83 to '04 using the GB -Triad single axel
  trailer and
  > found that about 400 lbs. of tongue weight is needed to keep
  trailer from
  > "fishtailing." Also back your trailer in the water further than you
  > stated and retract the bow chock, do not extend it to get Rhodes
  centered
  > fore and aft. We found that center cabin window should be over the
  trailer
  > wheel for horizontal balance and proper weight on the hitch; aft
  window
  > over the axel if you transport boat with outboard still on the
  transom
  > which I would not advise because of harmonic effect if rig starts
  to sway
  > a little. Don't go over 55 mph; this is what Stan Spitzer advised.
  If ramp
  > is steep, raise rudder blade before pulling forward so it does not
  hit the
  > ramp surface when bow is "up" and stern of your boat is "down." A
  good hit
  > on a concrete ramp can damage the rudder or at best make it jump
  off the
  > gudgeons ( i.e. the brackets on the transom).
  >
  > Take the rudder off and lay flat in the towing vehicle if you can.
  If some
  > tailgating A H rear ends you and takes a chunk out of the rudder
  blade,
  > it's darn expensive to replace although Stan can do it; at last he
  did it
  > for us about 12 years ago.
  >
  > Finally, with the weight of the boat, trailer and equipment you
  carry in
  > either one gets up to 3500 lbs. your towing vehicle is somewhat
  > underpowered for highway speed unless you stay in next to highest
  gear
  > selection on the AT. We trailered with a 5.3 liter V-8 on a big
  Buick
  > Station LeSabre wagon which was just about adequate. Went to a 5.7
  > Suburban with trailer towing package which handled it effortlessly
  on road
  > and ramps with gas saving rear wheel drive! Good Luck!
  > Alan & Barbara Robertson - "Thor IV"
  >
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: Claude Cox>
  > To: Rhodes22
  list>
  > Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 8:39 PM
  > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Retrieval of Boat
  >
  >
  > Hello Everyone;
  >
  > I'm mostly a lurker on this list, but occassionally I have
  something to
  > say---like now.
  >
  > I pulled my celtic Lass today, for the first time; it started out
  well,
  > and went up from there. Following the Commodore's instruction
  manual made
  > the experience an awesome one! I drove the boat onto the trailer,
  and it
  > centered just like the instruction's say it will. Because of the
  shallow
  > water at the ramp, I used the 10' tongue extension, and backed into
  the
  > water until there was about 2 1/2 feet of bunk above water.
  >
  > The trailer is a 1988 Trailmaster, single axle, which I purchased
  from
  > Peter Thorn this past spring. I replaced the bunks, recovered the
  bow
  > stop bunks, and, at PT's suggestion, installed what WM calls
  "Trailer
  > Sliks (P. 757 in the catalog). They worked beautifully, as they
  provide a
  > slick surface, for an extended time, on which the boat can move. I
  > installed a 5,000 # winch strap, which worked like a charm; as I
  pulled
  > the boat out of the water, it held the bow eye close, even as the
  angle of
  > the strap changed when the stern settled onto the trailer. The bow
  eye
  > came up "eye-to-eye" with the winch, but the boat didn't move as I
  pulled
  > up the ramp, which was a challenging ramp because of its somewhat
  severe
  > grade (at least for this boat retrieval virgin, it seemed to be
  severe).
  > The tow vehicle is a 2000 Ford Explorer, 2WD, 4.0L V6 engine. My
  > son-in-law helped with this adventure, and with the two of us in
  the
  > vehicle, along with "stuff" one accumulates on a boat, we w
  > er
  > e at the limit of this vehicle, however.
  >
  > The bow stop is on an adjustable arm. It was extended all the way
  toward
  > the stern of the trailer as I retrieved. Leaving it there, once we
  hit
  > the road the trailer began fish-tailing at about 45 MPH. Moving the
  winch
  > toward the tongue, I winched my 3000 # Rhodes forward (a real
  tribute to
  > the trailer sliks) until the edge of the rear port was over the
  axle of
  > the trailer (another PT-suggestion). That gave me another 10 mph,
  which
  > was plenty for the roads over which I was towing.
  >
  > Several of you on the list are in the decision-making process about
  how
  > to equip your Rhodes. If you get nothing else, GET THE MAST HOIST
  > SYSTEM!!! At least for me, it is worth its weight in gold. Lest I
  seem
  > too fulsome about this experience, there was a slightly down
  > side--preparing for the road. We were going just 40 miles, so how
  we
  > prepared didn't seem as critical as preparing for 400 miles. Still,
  > getting all the shrouds and loose lines secured presented a
  challenge.
  > I'm sure finding a satisfactory way to prepare for the road will
  come in
  > time, however. What we wound up with was a pretty messy bundle, but
  when
  > we got to the end of the trip, it was still all just where we had
  put it.
  >
  > When I returned home at the end of the day, I celebrated my success
  with
  > one of those drinks Rummy talks about all the time--what's it
  called
  > Rumster? I had one....then another....then another. And as I have
  come
  > to the end of my post, I'm going to have another.
  >
  > Peace ya'll.
  > Claude
  >
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