[Rhodes22-list] Melting Pot - Brother Brad melts toward totalitarism...

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Brad:

In the medical field there have been many practices in good old USA that
worked around the problems of religion in medical practice.  Since you have
been too busy flying around, you have succumbed to totalitarian point of
view.

In democratic America there have been and are still many variations of
medical garb or dress to get around these problems, especially with females. 
Remember that we have diverse groups such as conservative Christians,
conservative Jews and others who do in America use different grab in medical
practice.

Ask Alice W for her opinion of the variations of medical garb that she may
have seen?

And when you copy these copious articles, where are the internet citations? 
How can we check on you?

And Mary Lou’s comment on anti war, would she rather let more Twin Towers
occur?  Did she know anyone who was there?  I have a cousin whom I am
reasonably close to who lives in New Jersey.  I in fact visited with him
early in December.  He was in the lobby of one of the towers when a plane
hit it.  He heard the thunk.  He saw pieces falling.  Luckily, he quickly
walked down a set of stairs and thru a tunnel to the Hudson Tube tunnels. 
He got home that night about 8 p.m. 
 
Turning the other cheek and advocating peaceful resolution is not always the
right way.

Ed K
Greenville, SC, USA
"The old sheriff was attending an awards dinner when a lady commented on his
wearing his sidearm.
"Sheriff, I see you have your pistol. Are you expecting trouble?"   "No
Ma'am. If I were expecting trouble, I would have brought my rifle."




Brad Haslett-2 wrote:
> 
> Keep your eyes on Great Britain and Europe if you want to see what the
> future looks like.  PC and multi-culturalism is really working, isn't it?
> 
> Brad
> 
> --------------------
> 
>   Female Muslim medics 'disobey hygiene rules'
> By Julie Henry and Laura Donnelly
> Last Updated: 1:51am GMT 04/02/2008
> 
> Muslim medical students are refusing to obey hygiene rules brought in to
> stop the spread of deadly superbugs, because they say it is against their
> religion.
> 
> Women training in several hospitals in England have raised objections to
> removing their arm coverings in theatre and to rolling up their sleeves
> when
> washing their hands, because it is regarded as immodest in Islam.
> 
> Universities and NHS trusts fear many more will refuse to co-operate with
> new Department of Health guidance, introduced this month, which stipulates
> that all doctors must be "bare below the elbow".
> 
> The measure is deemed necessary to stop the spread of infections such as
> MRSA and Clostridium difficile, which have killed hundreds.
> 
> Minutes of a clinical academics' meeting at Liverpool University revealed
> that female Muslim students at Alder Hey children's hospital had objected
> to
> rolling up their sleeves to wear gowns.
> 
> Similar concerns have been raised at Leicester University. Minutes from a
> medical school committee said that "a number of Muslim females had
> difficulty in complying with the procedures to roll up sleeves to the
> elbow
> for appropriate handwashing".
> 
> Sheffield University also reported a case of a Muslim medic who refused to
> "scrub" as this left her forearms exposed.
> 
> Documents from Birmingham University reveal that some students would
> prefer
> to quit the course rather than expose their arms, and warn that it could
> leave trusts open to legal action.
> 
> Hygiene experts said last night that no exceptions should be made on
> religious grounds.
> 
> Dr Mark Enright, professor of microbiology at Imperial College London,
> said:
> "To wash your hands properly, and reduce the risks of MRSA and
> C.difficile,
> you have to be able to wash the whole area around the wrist.
> 
> "I don't think it would be right to make an exemption for people on any
> grounds. The policy of bare below the elbows has to be applied
> universally."
> 
> Dr Charles Tannock, a Conservative MEP and former hospital consultant,
> said:
> "These students are being trained using taxpayers' money and they have a
> duty of care to their patients not to put their health at risk.
> 
> "Perhaps these women should not be choosing medicine as a career if they
> feel unable to abide by the guidelines that everyone else has to follow."
> 
> But the Islamic Medical Association insisted that covering all the body in
> public, except the face and hands, was a basic tenet of Islam.
> 
> "No practising Muslim woman - doctor, medical student, nurse or patient -
> should be forced to bare her arms below the elbow," it said.
> 
> Dr Majid Katme, the association spokesman, said: "Exposed arms can pick up
> germs and there is a lot of evidence to suggest skin is safer to the
> patient
> if covered. One idea might be to produce long, sterile, disposable gloves
> which go up to the elbows."
> 
> I
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