[Rhodes22-list] Tom's Boom Pin Question - My solution
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R22RumRunner at aol.com
Wed Jul 16 11:14:58 EDT 2008
Art,
The simple and proper solution is to order the replacement from GB. Stan is
known for sending parts out quickly. In the interim, I would use a roofing
nail. It doesn't have coarse threads and it has a large head which will keep it
from disappearing into the mast and it is galvanized which means it won't
rust. I replaced my cars with new factory replacements several years ago and the
newer plastic holds up much better.
Different way to approach sail management in heavy air, but the majority of
skippers will lower the boom prior to reducing sail. The main reason would be
not to give up hull speed and still maintain control. If I know what the
winds are prior to going out, I will adjust the boom and the sheets accordingly.
Making any further adjustments while out sailing are usually done after
furling all sail and then going forward if need be. Furling Jenny and furling main
sail make it an easy proposition, unless you have had to much rum to drink,
which I never do while sailing.
Rummy
In a message dated 7/16/2008 9:55:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
czerwonky at earthlink.net writes:
Rummy,
Given the unavailability of the car, and hopefully it is available from
Stan, I stand by my interim recommendation. A replacement car is obviously the
better long term choice. Additionally, I would have the boom supported in
either upper or lower position by some means, if a replacement car is not fixed
to the mast. What better temporary alternative do you recommend to a
properly fitted screw? A fastpin is possible but may be too large. In no case
would I allow the boom to be supported be the smaller PT fixture.
We have have a different approach to sail management. Underway solo, if
winds get heavy enough, I will first first shorten the mainsail and headsail
versus lowering the boom. I would never leave the helm or cockpit in heavy or
gusty wind conditions - not good headwork. If I had a reliable crew I might
then lower the boom, and then possibly readjust the sails. Best resolution of
all, as we have learned, is to anticipate wind conditions before getting
underway.
I also prefer the cockpit mobility available with the boom up.
Ultimately, the greatest attribute of a good skipper depends on brain mass,
not body mass.
Chow,
Art
-----Original Message-----
>From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
>Sent: Jul 16, 2008 8:39 AM
>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] progress/bad advice
>
>Art,
>Not good advice. A replacement car is readily available from GB. I wouldn't
>use anything but an original replacement and certainly not a machine screw.
>Being able to drop the boom is one of the easiest ways to adjust the
rigging
>for big winds. However, some of our Rhodies obviously have enough mass
that
>they don't have a need to lower the center of effort on their boat. :)
>
>Rummy
>
>
>In a message dated 7/16/2008 7:44:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>czerwonky at earthlink.net writes:
>
>Tom,
>I wouldn't lose sleep over the archives issue. Our Rhoadie skippers, with
>just a few exceptions, have enough patience with our fleet colleagues to
>address specific questions like this, even given that many are repeated.
Your
>picture says it all - you can see both pins are the same - Stan will
probably
>not have a replacement, but can tell you where he gets the assembled
'car'. In
>the interim, the boom will have to be moved up or down infrequently - I
have
>never had to put mine into the lower position - use a #6 machine screw (or
>one with reasonable fit, including length) from HD to hold it in either
>position, until you can replace the pin. Stan may be able to send you a
>replacement car for a cost.
>R,
>Art
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Tom Hogarty <tjhogarty at gmail.com>
>>Sent: Jul 15, 2008 7:42 PM
>>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] progress
>>
>>
>>Thanks, Art, here is a picture of parts of the two "cars" on the lower
>mast.
>>I can see the indentation where the collar of the boom pin latch fit.
How
>>do I obtain and replace the pin? Does the mast need to be lowered?
>>I did not find the archives helpful.
>>Many Thanks,
>>Tom http://www.nabble.com/file/p18477261/IMG_0657.jpeg
>>
>>
>>
>>Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote:
>>>
>>> Tom,
>>> Re. the boom dropping - yes, there is a separate pin latch for each of
the
>>> two 'cars' that travel up and down the mast. Be aware that on the IMF
>>> mast, when you adjust the upper car, the IMF sail and its furling tube
>>> ride up or down the mast also, so additional weight is involved. I
>>> believe the pin for the upper car will be 28 1/2 " above the base of
the
>>> mast.
>>> Happy sailing on a spectacular boat!
>>> Art
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Tom Hogarty <tjhogarty at gmail.com>
>>>>Sent: Jul 13, 2008 9:33 PM
>>>>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] progress
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Mast went up on our newly named "acorn" this afternoon. Yoke and mast
>>winch
>>>>worked great as did the help from the documentation by former owner, Bob
>>>>Dobson, this wonderful forum, and Stan's great engineering. Easy as
>pie!
>>>>Skiptress Alice cranked it all by herself. I had thought we would need
to
>>>>host a barn raising party, but we did it all by ourselfs. It did take
>>much,
>>>>much longer than 20 minutes, but we learned so much about our boat in
the
>>>>process. Acorn is still trailered at Holiday Hill on the Rhodes River
>>south
>>>>of Annapolis and has a mess of details to go before launch. I pulled
the
>>>>pin to lower the pop top mast attachment and the boom came down as
well.
>>Is
>>>>there a separate control pin for the boom? The pin for the pop top
>>>>attachment is on the starboard side of the mast. None on the port side
>>>>where I might expect on for the boom. My archive search was not as
yet
>>>>helpful.
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Tom Hogarty
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