[Rhodes22-list] Chosing Genoa by jimjim02

R22RumRunner at aol.com R22RumRunner at aol.com
Wed Jun 18 12:41:38 EDT 2008


Robert,
Captain Bob of Yankee Clipper fame has an auto pilot which I am extremely  
jealous of. Some day I might break down and install one myself, but it's just  
hard to justify the expense when I'm sailing on an inland lake
 
Rummy
 
 
In a message dated 6/18/2008 11:25:20 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
robert at squirrelhaven.com writes:

And I  guess that an autopilot would be cheating, Rummy?
How about a wind  vane?  Bungee on the main  sheet?

/Robert

R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
> 
>  Slim,
> You have to understand that going below, mixing a drink and  getting back to
> the helm prior to broaching is a real challenge. It's  probably one of the 
few
> that I have yet to conquer with the  Rhodes22.
> 
> Rummy
> 
> 
> In a message dated  6/18/2008 2:07:15 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> stevenalm at gmail.com  writes:
> 
> John,  you're missing the point.  A fresh  drink should be served as  a
> bartender would serve it.   Fresh ice, rum and mix--or  whatever.
> 
> Rummy, my friend,  learn to heave to.  It's the best way  to briefly take a
>  little break and do what needs to be done.  Are you  in a hurry  or
> something?  It's easier than fussing with locking the   tiller down and
> trimming the sails perfectly so everything is balanced  and  you can go
> below.  Although I admit that's a  worthy  challenge.
> 
> Slim
> 
> On Tue, Jun 17,  2008 at 12:04 PM, KUHN, LELAND  <LKUHN at cnmc.org> wrote:
>  
> >
> > "I learn something new every  time I go  out."  If an experienced sailor
> > feels that way, it   convinces me that I will never get bored of sailing.
> > Perfect  total  boat adjustment for all conditions would be impossible to
>  > experience,  much less learn and remember.  It's got to be one  of the
> > easiest  sports to learn and the absolute hardest to  master.
> >
> > I took out  a calculator and started  doing the math.
> >
> > If you conservatively  should  make an adjustment for every 10 degree
> > directional change  and  every knot of wind change; and then factor in
> > different  combinations  of current, chop, headsail, mainsail,
> >  centerboard, tiller, traveler,  boom height, alcohol consumption,  mast
> > rake, stay tention, and all  standing/running rigging;  then you would
> > need to learn and remember  over  99,999,999.99 adjustments.  I don't know
> > how much more   because my calculator maxed out.  I'm just now discovering
> >  the  impact of adjusting the loose foot of the main.
> >
>  > Now if I only  had a boom vang.
> >
> >  Lee
> > 1986 Rhodes22  At  Ease
> > Kent Island,  MD
> >
> > -----Original  Message-----
> >  From: R22RumRunner at aol.com  [mailto:R22RumRunner at aol.com]
> >  Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 7:31  PM
> > To:  rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list]   Chosing Genoa by jimjim02
> >
> > Bill,
> >  Learning the Rhodes22  is a wonderful experience. Forget almost
>  > everything
> > you ever  knew about sailing and try sailing  her with the equipment that
> >  Stan
> > puts on her.  The sails have so many adjustments that it will  take
> >  several years
> > until you reach a comfort level where you   will want to change sails
> > around.
> > The  175 is a  great  sail with many adjustments. I learn something new
> >  every
> > time I  go  out. Just when I think I have it  mastered, something comes up
> >  and
> > reminds  me  that I still have a lot to learn. The hardest  thing for  me
> > is to go
> > below and  mix a drink while  still  under full sails single handing. I'm
> > fast,
>  > but not quite   fast enough.
> >
> > Rummy  :)
> >
> >
> > In a message  dated 6/16/2008  3:18:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> >  wpdavidge at gmail.com  writes:
> >
> > ED
> >
> > I'm not  sure  about JIm Or Jhon But I do like to change  sails .That  's
> >  one
> > of the reason I have  the Rhodes  ..I'm just looking  for  the Sail that
> > woks
>  > Best for me .
> > By the way You are  right  when you  tell people to ck with Rummy. His
> >  instructions  are  right on  but not everyone can Sail at the same  level
> >  that
> > He can ,or at least I  can't ,,Yet !
> >   Ed don't discount Your advise. It's also right on just  a little   blunt
> > at
> > times .
> >
> >
>  > Thanks    Bill  Davidge
> >
> >
>  >
> > On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at  7:13 PM, Tootle   <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:
> >
> >   >
> > > Jim:
> > >
> > >  I said,  "Ask Captain  Rummy for his detailed instructions and
> >  comments."
> >  >
> > > See, he gave you the best  advice  yet.
> >  >
> > >
> > >  R22RumRunner wrote:
> > > >
> >  > >   Jim,
> > > > Forget about changing sails. Order the  boat  with the 175  genoa and
> > learn
> > > >  how
> >  > > to adjust the sail(s) for the   conditions. Screwing around  with
> > multiple
> > >  > sails is a waste of  precious  sailing and drinking  time.
> > > >
> > > > Rummy
> >   >  >
> > > > If you were a racer you would not even  be  asking these  questions.
> > So
> > > >  follow Rummy's  advice.  Get the most  versitile sail and  go
> >  sailing...
> > > >
> > > >  Ed K
> > > >   Greenville, SC, USA
> > >  > Addendum:  "A chicken crossing the  road  is poultry in  motion."
> > > >
> > > > In a  message  dated 6/14/2008  7:25:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> >  >  > jamesldickson at aol.com  writes:
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > > > HI  Ed,
>  > > >  Thanks for the  reply -
> > >  >
> > > > Mary Lou's information was   very  helpful  as well - Thanks. I'm
> > buying the
> > >  >  boat through  Stan - 1991 recycled- should  be available  at the  of
> > the
> > > >  month.
>  > > > The furler  that is currently on the boat  is the  GBI  Factory
> > Version  and
> > > I
>  > > > won't be looking to change Genoa   sizes   often.
> > > >
> > > > But because I sail on  a  lake with  summer light winds I requested  a
> >  Genoa
> >  > > 150. The 170 is just  too big for the  lake winds I sail on -  it
> > would be
> > > >  reefed  in more than 75% of the  time. So it needs to be  made
> > special
> > >  order
> >   > > which won't be ready by the time I'm scheduled to go  down   to  
pick
> > up the
> > > >  boat.
> > > >
> >  > > Stan is  going  to give me an old 170 to take home  until  the 150 
can
> >  be
> > >  > shipped to me. Which means I  need to  replace the  Genoa's. Although
> > I
> > >   been
> > > > sailing since I was a kid. I have had  the   same  ODay Javelin that
> > has
> >  > been
> > > >  in
> > > > our   family since 74. I have never sailed   anything larger than  19'
> > and
> > > > nothing with anytype of   Furler. Just nervous  about  changing.
> > >  >
> >  > > I've sent an email to Stan to see if  it's  too late to   change to
> > the CDI
> >  > > version - this would  actually  make it easier to change.  I  might
> > even  see
> > > > if
>  > > >  I can purchase the old 170  from Stan for times when  we  take the
> > boat
> > > >   camping
> > > > and to the NJ Shore where there will be   more  wind and  the 170
> > would make
> > >  > more  sense.
> > >  >
> > > > But  just in case I can't get  the CDI  furler on it I  want to  find
> > out how
> > >  > difficult it will be to  make a one  time  replacement of the  old 
170
> > to  my
> > > > new
> > > > 150.  Again   with the understanding that  I'm by no means anytype of
>  >
> >  master
> > > > sailor or great with do  it yourself   repairs.
> > >  >
> >  > > Thanks in advance for your  advice and help.
> >  >  >
> > > > Jim
> > >  >  New  rhodes owner
> > > >  Quakertown PA
> >  >  >
> > > >
> > > >
> >  > >
> > >   >
> > > >
>  > > > Tootle wrote:
> > >  >>
> >  > >>  JimJim02
> > > >>
> >   > >> You said that you were purchasing a  Rhodes   22.   Is this from
> > General
> > > >>  Boats?
> > >   >>
> > > >> As to  changing  the foresale, it depends  as  Mary Lou said  which
> > furler
> > > >> you
> >   > >>  have.   That is if the boat has a  furler.   If you are  
purchasing
> > that
> >  > >> 1973
> >  > >> that was posted for   sale, it may be a hank on.
> >  > >>
> > >  >>  Mary Lou  pointed out the GBI  factory design, CDI,  and SnapFurl.
> > There
> > >  >>   are
> > > >> even more brands.  So if you are  getting  a  boat thru GBI,  call
> > and ask
>  > > >> what  is on the boat  now.  Stan ususally  does not  change  the
> > furler
> > >  >>  unless
> > > >> it  is broken.  So  if the boat has an  older  CDI, that is what  you
> >  will
> > > >> get.
> > > >>
>  >  >  >> Harkin makes one of the  best system  and  charges  accordingly.  
It
> >
> >  allows
> > >  >> changing  foresales on the   run.  It allows hoisting a  second sail
> > while
>  > > >>  using  the  first.  It even allow  using two sails at the same 
time,
> >  as
> >  >  in
> > > >> wing on wing.
> > >   >>
> > >  >> So understand, more information  is   required to answer your
> > question.
> >  > >> Suggest you  get a three ring binder  to keep   notes of your
> >  questions,
> > > >> answers  and other   information.   It will get filled up  quickly.
> > >   >>
> > > >> Ed  K
> > > >> Greenville,  SC,   USA
>  > > >> Addendum:  "boltrope - strong  rope stitched to  edges  of a  sail"
> > > >>
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