[Rhodes22-list] Ron Lipton's Political Glee

Herb Parsons hparsons at parsonsys.com
Sun Mar 9 14:37:04 EDT 2008


Really Hank?

Not unreasonable. I wonder how many such accomodations would be made for 
a Christian sect had they requested it. Wanna take bets on what the 
responses would be?

Hank wrote:
> Brad,
>
> Your facts are a little off.  The gym is available to ALL women, not just
> muslim women.  Although muslim women were the reason for the change.
> According to AP  "No men are allowed in the gym between 3 p.m. and 5 p.m. on
> Mondays, and between 8 a.m. and 10 a.m on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Even the
> staff during those times is all women."
>
> Two hours a day for three days a week is not unreasonable in my point of
> view.
>
> Hank
>
> On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 8:52 AM, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> Ed,
>>
>> Funny you should mention this:
>>
>> -I rather look to Bill Buckley's comment, "I'd rather entrust the
>> government
>> of the United States to the first 400 people listed in the Boston
>> telephone
>> directory than to the faculty of Harvard University." -
>>
>> Harvard recently set aside specific hours for Muslim women to use a
>> Harvard
>> University pool segregated for only Muslim women.  Didn't we have a
>> movement
>> in US during the 60's to end segregated water fountains and bus seats in
>> the
>> US?  So much for the Progressive movement.
>>
>> I'm off on a different mission this morning.  There was an attempted
>> hijacking in Xinjiang province over the weekend, an apparent attempt to
>> disrupt the planning for the Beijing games.  The crew was able to
>> apprehend
>> the bad guys and land short.  We know some people in the government there
>> and I'm anxious to get their opinion before they go to bed.
>>
>> Ah yes, 'the religion of peace'.
>>
>> Brad
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 7:26 AM, Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> Ron's glee about the winning candidate suggests that having a Ph.D.
>>>       
>> makes
>>     
>>> a
>>> person more qualified to lead that someone who is a high school dropout.
>>>
>>> I take exception to that elitist concept.  Many Mennonites only have a
>>> grade
>>> school level of academic achievement.  Yet I trust those guys who make
>>>       
>> up
>>     
>>> their convoys of church members going  to devastated areas and go about
>>> cleaning up and rebuilding without Federal Government assistance.
>>>
>>> I rather look to Bill Buckley's comment, "I'd rather entrust the
>>> government
>>> of the United States to the first 400 people listed in the Boston
>>> telephone
>>> directory than to the faculty of Harvard University."
>>>
>>> Good judgment in things subjects outside of ones area of expertise is
>>>       
>> not
>>     
>>> a
>>> given, nor an absolute.  It does not follow that because one has
>>>       
>> attained
>>     
>>> a
>>> high level of achievement in science that person will exercise
>>>       
>> commiserate
>>     
>>> quality of decision making in things political.
>>>
>>> In some scientific endeavors today, things have become very bureaucratic
>>> in
>>> substance.  Ph.D.'s very jobs and dreams are based on political
>>>       
>> decisions.
>>     
>>> In plain English, often their perspective of what is right or best is
>>> vested
>>> in their jobs, or their views of world from their educated perspective.
>>>  In
>>> truth, sometimes that perspective is self serving to a particularly
>>>       
>> narrow
>>     
>>> constituency.
>>>
>>> I rather also consider that if they were truly above average ability,
>>>       
>> that
>>     
>>> they could go out and create.  You know, take a dream of a small
>>>       
>> sailboat,
>>     
>>> make it and sell it.  Create where nothing or lesser things were before.
>>> Take the whole world up a notch.
>>>
>>> The above is done without government direction, but in an environment
>>> maintained by a government.  Yes we need a sheriff to keep evil from
>>> killing
>>> good people.  But, no, government is not the answer to nor the most
>>> efficient and effective way to a higher level of civilization.
>>>
>>> "It is not our affluence, or our plumbing, or our clogged freeways that
>>> grip
>>> the imagination of others.  Rather, it is the values upon which our
>>>       
>> system
>>     
>>> is built."  J. William Fulbright
>>>
>>> Ed K
>>> Greenville, SC, USA
>>>
>>>
>>> Tootle wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Ron:
>>>>
>>>> I will reply to your glee.  Understanding your educational level, and
>>>>         
>>> your
>>>       
>>>> friends, I would suggest that academic achievement may or may not be
>>>> relevant.
>>>>
>>>> Too me, the most important criterion is an effort to be honest.   For
>>>>         
>>> some
>>>       
>>>> even with religious background, simple honesty does not matter.
>>>>
>>>> You said, "It is nice to know that people of real quality can go into
>>>> politics
>>>> and succeed."
>>>>
>>>> That is a defining statement.  Does quality mean integrity?  Recently,
>>>>         
>> a
>>     
>>>> friend of mine lost his wife.  I have known him and her since the
>>>>         
>> early
>>     
>>>> 1970's.  He is a man of integrity, notwithstanding he is very liberal
>>>>         
>> in
>>     
>>>> some areas.  I worked for several of his campaigns.  During his time
>>>>         
>> in
>>     
>>>> Washington as Secretary of Education a U. S. Senate seat came open.  I
>>>>         
>>> was
>>>       
>>>> deeply afraid that he might actually run for it.  Because at that
>>>>         
>> point
>>     
>>> I
>>>       
>>>> doubted I could be a foot soldier in that campaign.  But alas, he
>>>>         
>> chose
>>     
>>>> not too, but rather returned to South Carolina to write and teach.
>>>>
>>>> I suspect, but never asked him if part of his reasoning for easing out
>>>>         
>>> of
>>>       
>>>> politics was the moral quality of those he associated with.  So then,
>>>>         
>> do
>>     
>>>> you consider Bill Clinton a man of real quality?
>>>>
>>>> I have posted this standard that we should expect from elected
>>>>         
>> officials
>>     
>>>> as a subscript several times:
>>>> " The people have a right, an indisputable, unalienable, indefeasible,
>>>> divine right to that most dreaded and envied kind of knowledge - I
>>>>         
>> mean
>>     
>>> of
>>>       
>>>> the character and conduct of their rulers"   John Adams
>>>>
>>>> I hope your friend is a man of integrity first.  What say yea?
>>>>
>>>> Ed K
>>>> Greenville, SC, USA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
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