[Rhodes22-list] Catastrophe or a disaster?

michael meltzer mjm at michaelmeltzer.com
Sun Mar 9 18:13:34 EDT 2008


Well, what can I say, it election session again, the political BS is running
a little hot, but on the other hand any sailing question does seem to be
answered, they're just not that many sailing questions, but that will change
with spring coming up. The view is "the list will talk about what ever
people want to post about within the limit of good taste". Like now we are
talking about your request, "which is denied" :-), as a piratical matter if
the only thing we talked about was sailing, people would bore of it when
they got to expert level and leave. Sailing Magazines are great examples,
how many do you still read after the first year?  Do you know how to filter
your mail into different "in" boxes? 

-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Alan Robertson
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 4:03 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Catastrophe or a disaster?

HERE WE GO AGAIN WITH YOU BIG MOUTHS MUCKING UP THE RHODES WEBSITE; PLEASE
MAIL EACH OTHER DIRECTLY SO WE SERIOUS BOATERS TO LOVE TO GET RHODES AND
SAILING INFORMATION WITHOUT EXTRANEOUS BULLSHIT CLOGGING OUR IN BASKETS. THE
TROUBLE IS THAT YOU BELIEVE YOUR OWN. OK FROM NOW ON RHODES MAILINGS GO INTO
THE BLOCK SENDERS OR JUNK MAIL LIST
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: petelargo<mailto:petelauritzen at earthlink.net> 
  To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> 
  Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 9:37 AM
  Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Catastrophe or a disaster?



  Don't you think it is just a little presumptuous and dismissive to declare
  what you think my "agenda" is when you don't know one thing about me? And
as
  regards your imagery of being strapped to your 'F-thing' while at full
  thrust, you will have to find someone else as I don't swing that way. (not
  that there is anything wrong with that).  


  Brad Haslett-2 wrote:
  > 
  > Herb,
  > 
  > You're wasting your time.  These rants are from people with a whole
  > different agenda.  But just for shits and grins, I'd like to strap their
  > ass
  > to an F-102 for one ride and see if they still want to run their mouth
  > about
  > "avoiding Vietnam" again.
  > 
  > Brad
  > 
  > On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Herb Parsons
<hparsons at parsonsys.com<mailto:hparsons at parsonsys.com>>
  > wrote:
  > 
  >> Mymymy, aren't we glad you don't write the history books. Soooo much
  >> spin, garbage, and nonsense, one hardly knows where to begin.
  >>
  >>
  >> Rob Lowe wrote:
  >> > Oh, I don't know.  It's an interesting question, but I agree it has
  >> nothing
  >> > to do with discussing the current candidates and should be debating
on
  >> it's
  >> > own merits.  Pete, which is worse, a catastrophe or a disaster?  I am
  >> > undecided how W's administration will be remembered too, between
those
  >> two
  >> > choices that is.
  >> >
  >> > In some ways, you got to feel sorry for W.  He grew up in the shadow
of
  >> his
  >> > very famous and successful father.  Although I didn't care much for
  >> George
  >> > H.W., I have to admire him for his accomplishments and his success. 
  >> H.W
  >> .
  >> > was a successful collage baseball player, war hero, business man, a
  >> pretty
  >> > good politician, and put together a coalition to drive the Iraqis out
  >> of
  >> > Kuwait.  W. on the other hand was a C student, avoided the Vietnam
War,
  >> > failed in business until his daddy's rich friends bought his
businesses
  >> at
  >> > inflated prices, choose partisanship over accomplishments in politics
  >> > (although I have to argue Cheney is the force behind most of that),
and
  >> got
  >> > into two wars that he can't win.  And bin Laden is still on the
loose.
  >> >
  >> > W.'s pretty much shot Jeb's chance at the White House, and it wasn't
  >> > supposed to be that way.  Jeb is the favorite son and was being
groomed
  >> for
  >> > the White House.  But W, looking for daddy's approval, decided to run
  >> for
  >> > the White House and won.  Well, he didn't win it, the Supreme Court
  >> gave
  >> it
  >> > to him.
  >> >
  >> > Yes, history will be the judge of W's legacy.  But this is the same
guy
  >> > trying to spin his own legacy.  This is the guy who has compared
  >> himself
  >> to
  >> > both George Washington and Abraham Lincoln.  You sure don't see
anyone
  >> else
  >> > comparing W. to Washington or Lincoln, not even his most ardent
  >> supporters.
  >> >
  >> > So, catastrophe or disaster?  Worse president in American history? 
  >> Only
  >> > time will tell.  - rob
  >> >
  >> > ----- Original Message -----
  >> > From: "Herb Parsons"
<hparsons at parsonsys.com<mailto:hparsons at parsonsys.com>>
  >> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>>
  >> > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 11:43 AM
  >> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Say What, Barack?
  >> >
  >> >
  >> >
  >> >> Huh???? How is discussing whether "the bush presidency will be
  >> evtually
  >> >> considered a catastrophe or a disaster" more a substantiative
  >> political
  >> >> critique than discussing the current candidates? The Bush presidency
  >> is
  >> >> just about over, and virtually nothing can be done to change his
  >> course.
  >> >> History has shown that the great presidencies were typically not
  >> >> recognized as such until LONG after they're over. In reality, that
  >> >> discussion would be virtually empty of substance were it to be held
  >> now.
  >> >>
  >> >>
  >> >>> For a more substantiative political critique I suggest the
discussion
  >> of
  >> >>> whether the bush presidency will be eventually considered a
  >> catastrophe
  >> >>>
  >> > or a
  >> >
  >> >>> disaster. I am undecided, but willing to hear arguments on both
  >> sides.
  >> >>>
  >> >>> Pete Hussein Lauritzen
  >> >>> Key Largo
  >> >>>
  >> >
  >> >
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  >> >
  >>
  >> --
  >> Herb Parsons
  >> S/V O'Jure - O'Day 25
  >> S/V Reve de Pappa - Coronado 35
  >>
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