[Rhodes22-list] Joe Shulick, a two part reply, 1st comment on your project, 2nd Political

[Rik Sandberg]

You go Ed,


"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution
which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence,
the money of their constituents...."  - James Madison

Rik

"There's a reason why bankers drive Cadillacs and the rest of us drive Chevies. Bankers collect interest,... The rest of us pay it" .... Rik Sandberg



Tootle wrote:
> Joe,
>
> Keep us informed about your Rhodes (?) project.  This forum always enjoys a
> progress report on project boats.  I encourage you to learn how to use the
> archives and in particular look to the work done by a now famous and
> published sailboat rebuilder, Lou Rosenberg of Brooklyn, New York.
>
> You stated that you are "currently restoring his 71 Rhodes, "Delilah".  Is
> this a Rhodes 22 or a Sailmaster 22?  Only one Stanley Spitzer can explain
> the difference.  However, there once was a Sailmaster 22 about the year of
> your boat for sale on eBay.  One Commodore Spitzer owned up to involvement,
> hum.
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> Now a political reply:  Joe said, "it might also be said one man taking care
> of another is the Christian thing to do and all I hear on the airwaves is
> how much of a Christian nation this is."  Please point out to me the words
> of the United States Constitution that direct the government to do that. 
> Where does it say steal from all to benefit a special class.  You are
> putting religious objectives for the government to accomplish.  
>
> Since you brought up the religious aspect of this question, are you familiar
> with:  "VII. Thou shalt not steal, Exodus 20:1-17?"  Where is the religious
> directive to steal from others to provide for charitable purposes using the
> coercive power of a government?
>
> And to whom was this religious command given?  What religion was he?  And
> now look at the background of one of the most ardent supporters of this
> socialist dogma on this forum.  It is important to know history, where we
> come from and how we got here, before advocating stealing a future from our
> progeny.
>
> Ed K
> Greenville, SC, USA
> “Freedom is Not Free” 
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> Tootle wrote:
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>> Joe,
>>
>> Are you trying to send Stan on an ego trip?  If you send too much praise
>> his way, he will think his liberal politics are correct.  He fails to stop
>> and understand that small businesses like his will have to supply his
>> workers required benefits under socialism espoused by the current national
>> Democrats.  The National Democrats have tried to get rid of the minimum
>> number of workers for businesses many times in the past.  Their objective
>> is one employee and you must have medical insurance, retirement, paid
>> vacations, family leave plans, etc., etc. 
>>
>> Imagine a recycled Rhodes 22 starting at $99,000 to pay for those required
>> benefits to employees for General Boats to stay in business.
>>
>> The socialist on this forum have even seduced one union member into
>> believing that compulsory government bargaining is the same as collective
>> bargaining by employees.  Socialism is made to sound good in the media,
>> but when did the Soviet Union have a successful five year plan?
>>
>> How many on this forum have been to a former Soviet Block country and
>> wanted those results?  
>>
>> Ed K
>> Greenville, SC, USA
>> “Socialism [is] where one person is forced to take care of another. There
>> is no moral argument that justifies using the coercive powers of
>> government to force one person to bear the expense of taking care of
>> another.”  Walter Williams
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>> Joe Babb wrote:
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>>> Stan and his crew do a nice job, don't they?
>>> Joe
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>>  Dear Mr. Ed,
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>>          While you may be correct with your quote about Socialism. it
>> might also be said one man taking care of another is the Christian thing
>> to do and all I hear on the airwaves is how much of a Christian nation
>> this is. If the price of a recycled rhodes has to rise to $99,000 so the
>> employees have a decent standard of living then I suppose you will either
>> have to ask your employer for a raise or do the work yourself. I have
>> worked for small (<5 employees) businesses for most of my life and believe
>> me there is no negotiating. If you want to keep your job, you shut your
>> yap and take what you're offered. As the song goes "I'm taking what there
>> givin cause I'm workin for a living".
>>
>> John Shulick 
>>         currently restoring his 71 rhodes  "Delilah"  
>>
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