[Rhodes22-list] Political....this is interesting.

Bill Effros bill at effros.com
Thu Nov 20 15:03:44 EST 2008


Herb,

If Obama were born in Hawaii it would appear he had 3 citizenships, US 
by virtue of his place of birth; English because his father had 
commonwealth status; and Indonesian by virtue of his attendance at 
Indonesian schools at which his citizenship was stated as Indonesian.

Indonesia required citizens of other countries to give up all other 
citizenships before they could enjoy the benefits of Indonesian 
citizenship -- like passports and schooling.

Obama could have reclaimed his American Citizenship, as many on this 
list have reported they have done, but it does not appear he has done 
so.  This step, and officially changing his name back to "Barack Hussein 
Obama" would seem to be the minimum requirements for running and serving 
as "President Barack Hussein Obama".

There would remain the question of "natural born citizen", but 
reclaiming name and citizenship would seem to be necessary first.  There 
is no indication he has done either.

When Republicans indicated an interest in running citizen Arnold 
Schwarznegger for President Democrats let them know in no uncertain 
terms that only "natural born citizens" need apply for the job of 
President. 

The current situation is commonly referred to as "repayment in kind."

Bill Effros



Herb Parsons wrote:
> Believe it or not, I have a problem with Dr. Keye's lawsuit in 
> particular, and the whole "not a citizen" issue in general.
>
> First of all, IF Barak was not a citizen when he was born, that puts 
> everything in a different light (and I think that's a possibility, I'm 
> not convinced one way or another at this point).
>
> However, if he was born a US citizen, I think the notion that his 
> parents may have taken that away by their later actions is wrong. If 
> it's technically correct, I still think it's wrong. No one should be 
> able to take away a US citizen's birthright, unless THAT citizen has 
> done something to lose it.
>
>
> Brad Haslett wrote:
>   
>> Rummy,
>>
>> Don't forget the Alan Keyes lawsuit filed November 12 in California
>> where Dr. Keyes was on the ballot.
>>
>> http://www.soundinvestments.us/files/final_writ_keyes_v_bowen.pdf
>>
>> What's interesting about the Keyes lawsuit is the question it raises
>> about the trip to Pakistan (illegal for US citizens at the time).  Did
>> O just break the law or was he traveling on a foreign passport?
>>
>> Brad
>>
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