[Rhodes22-list] Blue Heron gets beaded

Fri Feb 6 07:44:12 EST 2009

Rick, My 84 has non-slip on the gunnel area for boarding. This is very handy
for stepping aboard. The seats really are slippery and I have considered
adding some type of non-skid.

Good luck!
Wally

Please post pictures of the results.

On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Blue Heron <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:

> Wally,
>
> I have a friend who has the beading on his gunnels which are broad and good
> for sitting like the R22.  As long as bare leg skin isn't in contact with
> the beads, it is no different than sitting on smooth paint.  But you just
> can't slide around which is often what you want to do when sitting on the
> gunnels.
>
> As for my gunnels, they will paint an 8 inch patch of beading just forward
> of the winch bases for boarding safety.
>
> I'm thinking that if anyone does sit on the cockpit seat beading, the seats
> are too low for their bare legs to come in contact with the beading anyway.
> The only risk is someone may sit on the seat wearing a bikini.  On the
> other
> hand, I haven't had much luck attracting bikinis on my boat lately, so that
> risk may be worth taking.
>
> Rick
>
> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 7:42 AM, TN Rhodey <tnrhodey at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Mike, Your repair looks good. The cockpit table support seems to be a
> > common
> > source of leaks. I had to repair mine several years ago.
> >
> > Rick, Non skid seats may be a good idea. We always use the cushions or at
> > least a throw cushion. Try to find a deck already painted with similar
> non
> > skid and take a seat? Instead of the entire seat maybe just non-skid a
> > small
> > area to use for stepping aboard? Good luck.
> >
> > Wally
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Rick,
> > >
> > > Several years ago I faced a similar problem with the cockpit floor of
> my
> > > '81
> > > R22:
> > > http://www.nabble.com/leaks-to9963010.html#a9998040
> > >
> > > The floor had two additional major problems, both responsible for the
> > > admission of water.  When the boat was new, we witnessed the
> development
> > of
> > > "star burst" patterns of damage in the cockpit floor gelcoat.  They
> were
> > > circular with radial lines extending 3 to 4 inches from the  center.
> >  Over
> > > the years, water must have entered the glass layers in the floor
> through
> > > these defects to cause the second and more serious problem: the
> > separation
> > > or delamination of the floor components.  The freeze and thaw cycles of
> > the
> > > NY winter increased the damage to floor, using the trapped water as a
> > > wedge.
> > > This became evident when the floor "oil canned" as a large bubble
> formed
> > > beneath the upper layers.  This was compounded by the destruction of
> the
> > > foam below as water continued to pass through the floor, destroying the
> > > support system for the cockpit floor.  Eventually, the top layer of the
> > > floor cracked and I was able to see into the separated
> > > layers directly.
> > >
> > > I concentrated my efforts on rebuilding the cockpit floor to take the
> > > punishment that it gets in normal use.  After drilling holes in the
> floor
> > > to
> > > access the internal layers, I spent several months drying out the floor
> > > using acetone and fans while keeping water out of the cockpit using
> > tarps.
> > > I added structural wood supports and plywood to the foam below the
> > cockpit.
> > > I removed all damaged foam and replaced it.  When the structure below
> was
> > > solid and the floor was dry, I used penetrating epoxy from West Marine
> to
> > > reattach the layers of glass, compressing the floor down using bricks
> on
> > > wax
> > > paper.  Once that the epoxy had cured, I filled the holes and any
> > > remaining voids using 105/206/407, finishing flush with the gel coat.
> > >
> > > Because I am not skilled enough with gel coat repairs and wish to
> prevent
> > a
> > > similar failure in the future, I finished the cockpit floor with
> > > "Treadmaster Original Smooth Pattern" anti-slip deck covering.  It is
> > about
> > > $150 per 3' x 4' sheet, is 1/8" thick and is secured with water proof
> > > adhesive.  This restored the cockpit floor, providing a really
> > comfortable
> > > (on the feet) polymer surface that absorbs shock well and prevent water
> > > from
> > > entering the floor.
> > >
> > > After an entire season of use, I can honestly say that it is the most
> > > comfortable cockpit floor that I have ever felt.  The upkeep is easy.
> >  The
> > > surface is non-skid and soft under foot.  I should have put it in years
> > > ago.
> > >
> > > I attached a photo of the two color flooring installed on my R22 (the
> > link
> > > is probably at the very bottom of this email.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > s/v Shanghaid'd Summer ('81)
> > >       Nissequogue River, NY
> > >
> > >
> > > From: "Sloop Blue Heron" Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009
> > >  > At age 16, Blue Heron is getting her topsides painted over in
> Awlgrip.
> > > > The
> > > > yard has removed all the hardware and has begun repairing water
> > > > penetration
> > > > damage to the core in many places.  The mast step is pretty squishy,
> so
> > > > that
> > > > will be rebuilt and re-glassed before painting.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Since the paint will fill in the non-skid patterns in the gelcoat,
> the
> > > > yard
> > > > is going to add glass beads to the paint for painting over the
> existing
> > > > non-skid areas.  In addition, they will alter the color of the
> non-skid
> > > so
> > > > it is more easily recognized by guests and me during my senior
> moments.
> > > > The
> > > > general color will be "off white" and the non-skid will have a little
> > red
> > > > added in to be "moon" in color-sort of a light tan.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In the cockpit, only the sole and the lazzerette lid has non-skid
> now,
> > > > which
> > > > is handy when messing with the IMF.   The yard suggests painting all
> > the
> > > > cockpit seating surface as non-skid for boarding safety.  That seems
> > like
> > > > a
> > > > good idea to me because, even during the roughest ride, I use the
> > > cushions
> > > > all the time.  The glass beads ought to help keep the cushions in
> > place,
> > > > so
> > > > it is unlikely anyone will ever sit on the itchy beads.  Does anyone
> > have
> > > > any experience with that?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Rick
> > > >
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