[Rhodes22-list] Hit by a car, can my rhodes be saved?

Tue May 25 22:25:12 EDT 2010

Mike,

 From the pictures I saw reaching all the cracks would be problematic at
best given the cramped conditions in the laz and the need to grind the
surface to prepare it properly for the glass sheets and resin to bond
properly, Particular concern would be the cracks below the plimsol line,
they may extend into the area where the foam flotation area is under the
cockpit floor and not accessible. I am also assuming a worst case scenario
so any surprises would be on the plus side. I have managed to my surprise to
fit my 6'0" 290 lb frame into the laz to do some bolt tightening and such
but it was pretty tight quarters. the deck by itself can't weigh that much
an old rhodes comes in at around 2500 lbs 700 of that is ballast so 1800/2
equals about 900 or so pounds and probably is less since we haven't
considered mast and wood work at all. A rented mobile cherry picker should
do the job. 2 one day rentals should do, one to get it off and lay aside and
one to put it back on. I Also point out this would give easy access to
everything in the boat with regard to stringers and such for a total rebuild
which should be equal to or superior to any thing stans people can crank
out. This is not a job for the faint of heart or non handy people. It would
be much easier to simply throw money at someone else to do the job I agree,
but that is not always possible. Any boat yard (including stan) would
probably charge materials x 5 for labor I doubt you would get a bid under
$10,000 for anyone to touch the job. For that much I could work miracles.
Nothing would please me more than to be proven wrong on this, I hope someone
brings this thread to stans attention and he underbids my estimate. I don't
like the thought of any rhodes being scuttled old or new.

Best wishes
John S

R22MikeW wrote:
> 
> John,
> 
> While you are probably correct about the insurance value of the '81
> Rhodes, 
> why would you separate the deck and the hull?  Most of us do not have a 
> lifting mechanism capable of doing so.  I would think that most of the 
> damage might be reachable from the laz (not very comfortable but it does 
> provide access to the hull at that point.)  When I needed to do a fair 
> amount of work on my R22, I thoroughly cleaned and repainted my laz before 
> spending a fair amount of time in there working on repairs.  There was 
> plenty of room for my 5'11" frame in the laz, although I must admit, it 
> would have been easier if I had lost 30 pounds or so.  Pillows helped a
> lot.
> 
> Your point about finding another Rhodes 22 is well taken, although I
> haven't 
> seen many for sale lately.  As far as the 5% fee for Stan, I believe Alex 
> said he paid nothing for the boat (it was a gift) so Stan has already 
> received all the fee that he is entitled to.
> 
> I still think that unless Alex is real good at 'glass repair, the boat 
> should be repaired professionally and the best place is still GBI (and may 
> be the least costly if Stan is in a good mood.)
> 
> Mike
> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> Nissequogue River, NY
> 
> From: "John Shulick" Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 8:26 PM
>> Alex,
>>
>> Sorry to see what has happened to your boat. I'm more sorry to say the
>> insurance bastards will probably screw you to the wall and give you next 
>> to
>> nothing citing the age of the boat for their excuse.
>> Also because of the age stan may or may not even give you the time of day 
>> as
>> he is not usually inclined to do anything for the owners of older rhodes
>> especially if he has not received his 5% homage. That being said it is my
>> humble opinion that the damage is repairable if you have the time and 
>> skill
>> and tools to do the job. Those tools and skills would include the ability 
>> to
>> separate the hull from the deck at the rub rail (there is a joint there)
>> removing the deck and cockpit and working from the inside of the hull
>> rebuilding everything as you go then putting it all back together. Quite
>> a
>> project but doable. Might be cheaper to find another boat. I wish you the
>> best of luck and hope all works out in the end.
>>
>> John S
>>
>>
>> Alex McKenna wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> This week I was going to start work restoring my rhodes 22, but Saturday
>>> at 4:30 AM there arose a problem. My wife and I were awoken to the sound
>>> of an explosion, we looked out our window and saw a car driving on our
>>> lawn. A man fell asleep at the wheel, and drove his honda civic through
>>> our fence, smashing into, then going under our boat on the trailer. The
>>> boat was still tightly strapped to the dual-axle trailer with 10k pound
>>> straps. He was still going so fast after the collision, he demolished
>>> two
>>> more fences, throwing the heavy, trex fencing 20 or 30 feet. The hull
>>> has
>>> three or fours cracks near the transom. I have to get an estimate for
>>> repairs, but we recently moved to CT and I don't know any repair shops
>>> in
>>> the area.
>>>
>>> What do you think are the chances of getting this repaired? I may be
>>> able
>>> to grind and epoxy myself, but I don't know if I will be able to get
>>> access to the inner hull.
>>>
>>> Here are some pics of the damage:
>>>
>>> Amazingly, the driver was unhurt, and left the car before the police
>>> arrived.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Alex
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