[Rhodes22-list] rum tank in laz

Michael D. Weisner mweisner at ebsmed.com
Thu Nov 18 19:01:20 EST 2010


I still want to know what the tremendous advantage of storing gasoline in 
the laz is!

Mike
s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
Nissequogue River, NY

From: "Hank" Thursday, November 18, 2010 6:49 PM
> Cell phone electricity is not an issue.  That has been tested and proved 
> to
> not be a threat, both by mythbusters and by real scientists.
>
> Hank
>
> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 6:44 PM, BenCittadino 
> <bencittadino at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> My only thoughts are static electricity and cell phone electricity. (
>> again,
>> I see, agreeing w/ MikeW ).
>>
>> Of course I do have the electric lift for my Y9.9, and wiring for my 
>> depth
>> sounder transducer, all routed through the laz.
>>
>> Mike, we did what we could do and re-elected Rush Holt D-NJ(12) in my
>> district. I'm actually going to enjoy watching the Teapublicans learn to 
>> do
>> more than sulk in the corner and say "No".
>>
>> Cuomo for President 2012! First Italian-American.
>>
>> BenC
>>
>>
>>
>> Ben Schultz wrote:
>> >
>> > I've sailed with Rummy. It doesn't last long enough to store.
>> >
>> > On Nov 18, 2010, at 16:43, "Chris Cowie" <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Rummy:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Where do you store your Rum?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Christopher P. Cowie
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW
>> >> Suite 300
>> >> Washington, DC  20007
>> >> 202.342.2711
>> >> 202.342.2691 fax
>> >> 202.270.1470 mobile
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com]
>> >>
>> >> cowieassociates.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> >> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
>> >> R22RumRunner at aol.com
>> >> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 2:56 PM
>> >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] gas tank in laz
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Ben,
>> >> As all the old timers know, this is an old, rehashed topic that Benny
>> >> brought up just to get the list talking again. I certainly understand
>> >> everyone's
>> >> concerns, but tell me, where's the source of ignition in the lazz? I
>> >> still
>> >> maintain that there is plenty of ventilation, even after looking at 
>> >> the
>> >> CC
>> >> regulations.
>> >>
>> >> Rummy
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> In a message dated 11/18/2010 2:50:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> >> bencittadino at gmail.com writes:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Rummy and Charles and Whoever;
>> >>
>> >> I am very apart from Mike  politically. However, let me say this as
>> >> gently
>> >> as
>> >> I can. GET THOSE  FREAKING GAS CANS OUT OF THE LAZARETTE THIS VERY
>> >> MINUTE!!!!
>> >> Are you  suicidal? Are you just so stubborn that you are willing to 
>> >> die
>> >> rather than  be reasonable? Whether the laz is "air tight" or "water
>> >> tight"
>> >> means  nothing. It is incredibly dangerous to store gasoline in that
>> >> small
>> >> enclosed space. Get it the heck out of there. You can only play
>> >> "russian
>> >> roulette" for so long before you get a bullet in the head.
>> >>
>> >> And, yes, the parents of that little girl who exploited her by letting
>> >> her
>> >> sail around the world belong in jail, too!
>> >>
>> >> your devoted  colleague,
>> >>
>> >> BenC
>> >>
>> >> Ben Schultz wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Right  on.  Mission accomplished.  When I get bored again, I'll have
>> >> to
>> >> go
>> >>> back a decade and find another topic that used to get us fired  up!
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> >>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Michael D.
>> >>> Weisner
>> >>> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:47
>> >>> To: The Rhodes  22 Email List
>> >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] gas tank in laz
>> >>>
>> >>> Hey Rummy,
>> >>>
>> >>> Ben was bored so he threw a lit match  into a tank of gas.  Charles
>> >> took
>> >>> the
>> >>> bait.  Da  list responds.  You ... nevermind.  Ben, be careful what
>> >> you
>> >>> wish
>> >>> for.
>> >>>
>> >>> I prefer to live to sail another  day.  I have even donned a life 
>> >>> vest
>> >> in
>> >>> rough seas,  lately.  I must be growing up or something.  It is truly
>> >> a
>> >>> terrible thing, this getting older business.
>> >>>
>> >>> Sail safe and  make sure that your passengers are of a like mind.
>> >> Their
>> >>> lives  are in your hands.
>> >>>
>> >>> Mike
>> >>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer  ('81)
>> >>> Nissequogue River, NY
>> >>>
>> >>> From:  <R22RumRunner at aol.com> Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:35 AM
>> >>>> Mike,
>> >>>> And how long have you been a part of this list? Do you  really 
>> >>>> expect
>> >> me
>> >>>> to
>> >>>> live my other people's rules?  Ain't happening. I'm smarter than the
>> >> rest
>> >>>> of
>> >>>> the  planet. Is it noon yet? Anywhere?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Rummy
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> In a message dated 11/18/2010  11:26:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> >>>> mweisner at ebsmed.com  writes:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Rummy,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Your mileage  not withstanding, your practice  constitutes an unsafe
>> >>>> condition.  Please review the USCG site
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> http://www.uscgboating.org/regulations/boatbuilder_s_handbook/vent_partg
>> >> .asp
>> >>> x
>> >>>> with particular attention to the
>> >>>> following  portion:
>> >>>> Portable Fuel  Tanks
>> >>>> Compartments used  to store vented portable fuel tanks or 
>> >>>> containers
>> >> are
>> >>>> required to be equipped with natural ventilation.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Cockpit seat lockers in auxiliary sailboats are often used as fuel
>> >> tank
>> >>>> compartments for portable outboard motor fuel tanks. If this  fuel
>> >> tank
>> >>>> vents
>> >>>> into the locker, then natural  ventilation of this locker is
>> >> required.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Since  fuel vapors seek the lowest point of any  compartment,
>> >> gasoline
>> >>>> vapors should be considered when designing and   constructing a
>> >>>> compartment
>> >>>
>> >>>> that
>> >>>> will contain a fuel tank or container that  vents into a
>> >> compartment.
>> >> Any
>> >>>> openings in or near the bottom of the  compartment could  permit
>> >> explosive
>> >>>> vapors to flow into the bilge of the boat   where an ignition source
>> >> might
>> >>>> ignite
>> >>>> the  vapors.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The "natural  ventilation" must consist  of:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> (1) supply opening(s) or duct(s)  from the  atmosphere or from a
>> >>>> ventilated compartment or from a compartment  that is ventilated
>> >>>> to the atmosphere;
>> >>>> and
>> >>>>
>> >>>> (2) exhaust opening(s) into another ventilated  compartment  or
>> >> exhaust
>> >>>> duct(s) to the   atmosphere.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Each supply opening must be located on the  exterior  surface of the
>> >> boat:
>> >>>> "Open to the atmosphere" means  a compartment that has  at least 15
>> >> square
>> >>>> inches of open  area directly exposed to the atmosphere for  each
>> >> cubic
>> >>>> foot
>> >>>> of net compartment volume.  The underseat space  meets  this
>> >> requirement
>> >>>> while
>> >>>> the laz space has  insufficient ventilation and connects  with the
>> >> cabin
>> >>>> interior and bilge through wiring channels.  These  ventilation
>> >>>> requirements
>> >>>> also apply to batteries that emit  hydrogen gas during  charging
>> >> (solar
>> >> or
>> >>>> otherwise) in  confined spaces.
>> >>>> For those who are  interested, the site also  provides links to pdfs
>> >> of
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> Boatbuilder's  Handbook  for download.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> A simpler version  entitled "Safety Standards for  Backyard Boat
>> >> Builders"
>> >>>> which  I have found very useful over the years is  available   at:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/education_safety/safety/boatwater/backyardb
>> >> oatb
>> >>>> uilders.pdf
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Please  err on the side of  safety.  Don't play around with lives.
>> >> Many
>> >>>> of
>> >>>> these rules were established after an avoidable  accident.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Mike
>> >>>> s/v  Shanghai'd Summer  ('81)
>> >>>> Nissequogue River,  NY
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> From:  <R22RumRunner at aol.com> Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:15  AM
>> >>>>> Charles,
>> >>>>> Relax. I kept my fuel tank  in the lazzerette for almost  twenty
>> >> years.
>> >> I
>> >>>>> moved it  only after I installed the electric  motor lift which
>> >> places
>> >> an
>> >>>>> electric  motor (sparks) in the lazz.  The hatch  cover for the 
>> >>>>> lazz
>> >> is
>> >>>> not air
>> >>>>> tight and if   you look  under both seats you will see large
>> >> openings
>> >>>> which
>> >>>>> provide  adequate  ventilation. People on the  list were worried
>> >> that I
>> >>>> was going  to
>> >>>>> blow  myself up,  but as you can see, I'm still intact. I used  to
>> >> drink
>> >>>> like
>> >>>>> crazy and smoked  cigars and  cigarettes.......all  at the same 
>> >>>>> time
>> >> and
>> >>>>> never had a  problem with  gas  fumes.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Rummy
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> In a message dated   11/18/2010 9:08:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> >>>>>  blue66corvette at hotmail.com  writes:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I  sail in   teh suburbs of Dallas, Texas ..... I think I am the
>> >> only
>> >>>> Rhodie
>> >>>>> in  these parts so you probably won't even  hear the
>> >> explosion......I
>> >>>> do't
>> >>>>> have  propane  on the boat, I am guessing that would be for a
>> >> stove? I
>> >>>> don't
>> >>>>> have one  of those  either.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Thanks for the education, I will  gfive some thought to  moving the
>> >>>>> tank.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Charles
>> >>>>> s/v Blue  Feather
>> >>>>> 84 R 22 ...  recycled   96
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> From:  mweisner at ebsmed.com
>> >>>>>> To:   rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> >>>>>> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010   08:53:59  -0500
>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list]  Reintroduction -  Now gas tank in
>> >> laz
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> It depends on how far away   from here you sail your Rhodes   ...
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Basically,  fuel vapors that  accumulate can be fairly  explosive.
>> >> Since
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>>> laz is not ventilated, it is not a great place   to store
>> >> gasoline. I
>> >>>> have
>> >>>>>> always stored  a 6 gal tank under the   cockpit seat without a
>> >> problem
>> >>>>> where at
>> >>>>>> least the fumes   (lighter than  air) would not be  trapped.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> BTW,  where do you store  your  propane (heavier than air)? Please
>> >> do
>> >>>>>> not
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>> store it in the   cabin.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Where do  you  sail,again?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Mike
>> >>>>>> s/v Shanghai'd  Summer  ('81)
>> >>>>>> Nissequogue River,  NY
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>  ----- Original Message  -----
>> >>>>>> From: "Charles Nieman"    <blue66corvette at hotmail.com>
>> >>>>>> To: "Rhodes  List"   <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> >>>>>> Sent:  Thursday, November 18,  2010  8:42 AM
>> >>>>>> Subject:  Re: [Rhodes22-list]   Reintroduction
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I don't know about all that political  stuff .....  but what's
>> >> this
>> >>>>> about
>> >>>>>>> keeping your gas tank in tha   lazerette????? That is where I
>> >> have
>> >>>>> always
>> >>>>>>> kept  mine ....  is  this a problem????
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Charles
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> From:  benonvelvetelvis at theskinnyonbenny.com
>> >>>>>>>> To:   rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> >>>>>>>> Date:  Thu, 18 Nov 2010  06:40:39  -0600
>> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list]  Reintroduction
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> We are overdue  for some angry --  or at least  passionate
>> >> rants.
>> >>>>> Thoughts
>> >>>>>>>> on
>> >>>>>>>> midterm  elections? Sarah  Palin's book tour? Did dinosaurs
>> >> really
>> >>>>> exist?
>> >>>>>>>> Do you  prefer Bicardi to Mount Gay? Isn't anyone at least
>> >> keeping
>> >>>>> their
>> >>>>>>>> gas
>> >>>>>>>> tank in the  lazerette?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Watching and waiting from BR,
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Ben
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>  -----Original Message-----
>> >>>>>>>> From:    rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> >>>>>>>>   [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
>> >> Geoff
>> >>>> Farrell
>> >>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 17,  2010  12:39
>> >>>>>>>> To: The  Rhodes 22 Email  List
>> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list]   Reintroduction
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Thank God... on both  counts.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:28  PM,   <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>  Mike.
>> >>>>>>>>> Welcome back to the list. A  while  back we had to  have a
>> >>>> separation
>> >>>>> of
>> >>>>>>>>> sailing from politics. The   political people left the list
>> >> and
>> >>>>>  started
>> >>>>>>>> their
>> >>>>>>>>> own
>> >>>>>>>>> social network list. The  sailors and  most  of the drunks are
>> >>>>>> still
>> >>>>> here.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Rummy
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> In a  message dated 11/16/2010 3:07:58  P.M. Eastern
>> >> Standard
>> >>>>>> Time,
>> >>>>>>>>> michael.4591 at gmail.com writes:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> By way of a reintroduction  I am Mike Corley, a loyal
>> >> Rhodes
>> >>>> owner
>> >>>>> since
>> >>>>>>>>> 1996. I have not  been active on  the list in  several years.
>> >> It
>> >> is
>> >>>>>>>>> definitely a lot quieter now than  it used to be. Sort of
>> >> miss
>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>> barroom
>> >>>>>>>>> mentality of  the old  list.
>> >>>>>>>>> I have owned two Rhodes,  the   first was a new 96 model I
>> >> bought
>> >>>> from
>> >>>>>>>>> Stan and  then  after  returning from Europe Stan made me a
>> >> great
>> >>>> deal
>> >>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>>> I
>> >>>>>>>>> traded it in on a  slightly used and upgraded 99  Rhodes in
>> >> 2000,
>> >>>> but
>> >>>>>>>>> that
>> >>>>>>>>> is
>> >>>>>>>>> another  story. I like to tell people that I liked the  boat
>> >> so
>> >>>> much I
>> >>>>>>>>> bought
>> >>>>>>>>> it twice. I  still take   the boat back to GB in Edenton, NC
>> >> when
>> >>>>>> it
>> >>>>> needs
>> >>>>>>>>> work which is  infrequently. Stan and GB is the most honest
>> >>>> business
>> >>>>> I
>> >>>>>>>>> have
>> >>>>>>>>> ever dealt with and they   still do good work!
>> >>>>>>>>> I  just recently  retired from the  Army after 30 years of
>> >> service.
>> >>>> I
>> >>>>>>>>> retired from Fort  Monroe, Va and now  live in  Smithfield, Va
>> >> at
>> >>>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>> intersection of the  Pagan  and James Rivers. I keep my boat
>> >> at
>> >>>>>> the
>> >>>>> Old
>> >>>>>>>>> Point
>> >>>>>>>>> Comfort Marina at Ft Monroe  in  Hampton, Va which is  about
>> >> 22
>> >>>> miles
>> >>>>> from
>> >>>>>>>>> Smithfield. My  children are grown now so I primarily
>> >> singlehand
>> >>>>> which
>> >>>>>>>>>  is
>> >>>>>>>>> easy to do in a Rhodes. I have  enjoyed sailing the
>> >> Southern
>> >>>>> Chesapeake
>> >>>>>>>>> for
>> >>>>>>>>> the last  four years. Previously I have sailed my  Rhodes
>> >> out
>> >> of
>> >>>>> Middle
>> >>>>>>>>> River
>> >>>>>>>>> near Baltimore, Newbern, NC  on the Neuse  river, and
>> >> Washington
>> >>>> DC
>> >>>>> on
>> >>>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>> Potomac River. As all of you will agree, the Rhodes is a
>> >> great
>> >>>>> costal
>> >>>>>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>>> inland pocket  cruiser!
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Mike Corley
>> >>>>>>>>> S/V   Ranger
>> >>>>>>>>> 99 Rhodes
>> >>>>>>>>> Hampton Roads,   Va
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