[Rhodes22-list] Market was Thank You Mary Lou, Captain Crawford, 26, 27 issues

Joseph Hadzima josef508 at yahoo.com
Thu Feb 15 20:10:03 EST 2007


Arthur,

I thought that was Stan's original suggestion about
starting another company ... rather than upsetting the
current General Boats.



--- "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Mary Lou,
> 
> If the market is clear, now to marketing.  You and I and
> all of the R22 skippers know well the quality that would
> go into a GB27.  I suspect name recognition, not a
> problem with the 'Rhodes 22' label, will be needed to
> sell outside of our captive R22 population.  If there is
> enough demand for the GB27 within our fleet (how many R22
> owners would likely upgrade?) keeping the shop full of
> orders would not be a problem initially.
> 
> Another thought - What about demands on shop time and
> labor hours in Edenton versus R22 production priorities? 
> This and many more questions I'm sure.  Are we having fun
> yet?
> 
> Art
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
> >Sent: Feb 15, 2007 4:44 PM
> >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list]  Market was  Thank You Mary
> Lou, Captain	Crawford, 26, 27 issues
> >
> >Art,
> >There might be a market for another 27 footer. 
> >There aren't too many being built these days. 
> >There are several production fin keel models. 
> >They aren't trailerable as I presume this one 
> >will be. The only trailerable one I can think of 
> >is the NorSea and that's a full keel boat that is 
> >really only transportable I doubt you could ramp 
> >launch it easily. The Hunters and whatever in 
> >this size range are pretty short on amenities. 
> >Beneteaus and Dehlers have the amenities but they 
> >also have diesel engines and are not trailerable. 
> >The SunYacht Flyer is a 27 foot almost 
> >trailerable (shallow draft centerboard but with a 
> >9 ft. beam) from Poland was supposed to be 
> >marketed here but I haven't heard much about them 
> >recently and I can't get to their website at the 
> >moment. Closest competition might be Gozzard.
> >
> >Mary Lou
> >1991 R22  Fretless   (and no, I don't want a 27 foot
> boat)
> >Rock Hall, MD
> >
> >
> >At 12:54 PM 2/15/2007, you wrote:
> >>Ed,
> >>You need more than that to define a 
> >>market.  Now, read the rest of my post.  With my 
> >>own 26' I am not persuaded that you can emulate 
> >>the R22 experience to any boat this large.  Look 
> >>at the boat height next to Stan.  How to 
> >>distinguish the GB27 from other established 
> >>boats of this size range - very good questions 
> >>from Dave, and begging an answer.
> >>Art
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >> >From: Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net>
> >> >Sent: Feb 15, 2007 8:04 AM
> >> >To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >> >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Thank You Mary Lou, Captain
> Crawford, 26, 27 issues
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Mary Lou,
> >> >                Thank you for your comments 
> >> about ‘blind squirrels’  single
> >> >handling.  Evidentially some have never followed sail
> boat racing, in
> >> >particular, solo racing.  They have 50+ foot boats
> going solo.  See:
> >> >http://www.joshuaslocumsocietyintl.org/single.htm 
> and :
> >> >http://www.aloneonthesea.com/
> >> >
> >> >       In regards to boat under 30 feet, Stan 
> >> has been innovating for how many
> >> >years?  An important part of the reason he is looking
> at this is the
> >> >intellectual and professional challenges.
> >> >
> >> >Frone Crawford,
> >> >       Thank you, just need a watch dog on 
> >> some issues.  Please bark occasionally
> >> >on the issues involved with these guys.
> >> >
> >> >Art, Dave, Bud
> >> >       Please do go back and reread Captain Rummy’s
> post:
> >>
>
>http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/2007-February/038741.html
> >> >You might even print it out.  The market is clearly
> defined by Captain
> >> >Rummy.
> >> >
> >> >       Maybe Will, Russ, Michael M. or Glen & 
> >> Dorene Barrera would be willing to
> >> >comment on how a 26 is and should be?  Alternatively
> maybe the newbies will
> >> >study the archives?  See:
> >>
>
>http://search.ask.com/web?q=seaward+26+site%3Arhodes22.org+&qsrc=1&o=0&l=dir
> >> >
> >> >Ed K
> >> >Greenville, SC, USA
> >> >Also go back and read Captain Rummy's post:
> >>
>
>http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/2007-February/038649.html
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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