[Rhodes22-list] Halyards

cowie ccowie at cowieassociates.com
Wed Jun 3 20:59:17 EDT 2009


Wow, great replies and input from everyone, I now have a much better
understanding of the sail arrangement.  The link to the cdi furler has a pdf
file that explains the system with very clear instructions , illustrations
and photos.  It is now clear how the furling system acts as a for stay and
how the headsail can be removed with a messenger stay.  Thanks for everyones
replies.


Mary Lou Troy-2 wrote:
> 
> What kind of headsail furler do you have? The old GBI style furler 
> had no halyard. The sail was screwed to the aluminum tube. I think 
> Stan usually uses a CDI furler these days. These have some sort of 
> internal halyard arrangement and you need to use a messenger line to 
> lower the sail. That may be the line Elton showed you. Manuals and 
> other info are available on the CDI website. 
> (http://www.sailcdi.com/ffmain.htm). We have a Schaefer SnapFurl 
> which uses a regular halyard. Because we already had a halyard for 
> our UPS (light air sail) we had to move the topping lift to a block 
> which we attached to the masthead.
> 
> We have a flag halyard (really a piece of string) that goes to a 
> block clamped to the starboard spreader. It used to get cleated to a 
> spare cleat on the mast but as we needed a cleat for the new jib 
> halyard we added one of those clamp-on cleats to one of the lower 
> stays. We have a pole for the US flag that clamps to the stern rail.
> 
> As far as storm prep, we went through a drill last year when a storm 
> threatened more for practice than anything else. At the time I posted 
> some pictures to the list. The message (with the links to the pics) 
> is in the archives at:
> http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/2008-September/054961.html
> 
> There's a complete description of what we did at:
> http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/2008-September/053767.html
> There's an entire thread of discussion about storm preps there.
> 
> I wouldn't rely on wraps of the sheet to secure your headsail. 
> Usually when a wrapped headsail starts to unfurl it is high up when 
> the wind gets under a bit of the sail. Gusts like you would get in a 
> thunderstorm are not so much of a problem as sustained winds like you 
> would get in a tropical storm or hurricane. Our theory is that if 
> truly threaten by a hurricane we will pull the boat as we are not 
> confident of our ability to tie her off in the slip in such a way 
> that she would be safe. When we were threatened by Isabel we had the 
> yard pull the boat and put her on the trailer. We then took the mast down.
> 
> On a related note, we do routinely tie off the headsail with a line 
> through the clew eyelet tied around the sail. This allows us to 
> slacken the sheets so the swallows don't perch on them and crap all 
> over the foredeck.
> 
> Mary Lou
> 1991 R22 Fretless
> Rock Hall, MD
> 
> 
> 
> At 12:25 PM 6/3/2009, you wrote:
> 
>>R22 2009 with furling head sail and IMF.  Silly Question:  Does the main
sail
>>and or head sail have a halyard?  I keep my boat in the water at a slip
and
>>never really took a good look at the mast head rigging prior to raising my
>>mast. I can see a hollow groove inside the mast that houses the furling
>>mechanism but don't see a main halyard.  I suppose that the mast needs to
>>come down in order to remove the main sail.  How about the head sail?  I
see
>>a grooved sleav that the head sail appears to slide into and assume the
>>sleave is only removed if the mast is down?  I assume the head sail can be
>>slid down and out of the track but I don' see a halyard?  Elton showed me
a
>>red halyard that is stowed inside the boat and noted I should use this if
I
>>remove the head sail.  Not sure exactly how the red line gets used?  I
don't
>>need to take the sails down but am curious how it is done.  I am also
>>thinking ahead to storm season and want to be prepared in case I decide to
>>remove the head sail if high winds are predicted.  Is the small amount of
>>main sail exposed during a windy storm of concern?  I suppose the head
sail
>>sheets could be wraped around the furled head sail to better protect the
>>sail from flapping, should anything be done to the small amount of main
sail
>>exposed.  I am also thinking it would be nice to have an extra halyard to
>>fly a flag and suppose most are attached to the spreaders.  I also
purchased
>>a 2.5 gallon solar shower and am wondering what to raise this with, penant
>>halyard or rig something on the topping lift?
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